"Our diversity is a big part of why we are such a special club" We can only hope that's really true. But it's not hard to notice that the coaching staff looks all white. And our PR department might've chosen a photo with a bit less hint of micro-segregation, i.e. the black players all hanging together. I would've rather seen one of those great goal celebrations... a bunch of multi-racial, multi-ethnic, multi-religious dudes all piled on top of each other hugging and kissing.
Istanbul is always a good idea 👌🌙🇹🇷 #LoveThisCity #Turkey pic.twitter.com/wlZhZvjMOn— Mesut Özil (@M10) July 21, 2015
I may have missed some context about this from the last couple pages, but you're seriously arguing that Ozil is white?
Are you joking here? What does that have to do with the German FA and German political officials discriminating against him? What does Milan have to do with Germany? No one is saying Ozil's treatment is the same as being black on Earth, but we not about to let any type discrimination slide.
You should read the last few pages I guess. I’m not really saying white per se, but his appearance does not give most people any insight into his background. His plight is different from that of those of African decent for example whose skin color is generally a label they can’t escape.
Of course I’m not saying to let it slide. Just that this is a different form at descrimination and commentary should reflect that.
People take pictures with politicians who do awful things all the freaking time. Lots of athletes took pictures with George W. Bush, who is objectively worse than Erdogan can ever dream of being. What I'm saying is that the outrage seems like it's in less than good faith, because as bad as Erdogan is, there are others who are much worse and about whom there has been zero outrage. And it's because of Ozil's ancestry and religion.
I'm on the opposite end of the political spectrum and I wouldn't characterize W that way. Cheney maybe, but not W, W started a war that that has made the world less safe, but he wasn't a totalitarian. A more appropriate comparison is Putin. We know he has had political opponents and former spies, who have defected to the west, assassinated. If Erdogan is doing this, it is not yet common knowledge.
The Iraq and Afghanistan wars have displaced and killed hundreds of thousands of innocent people Bush was in charge and over saw that sgit
Here's another interesting and very recent case: https://amp.slate.com/news-and-poli...a-photo-op-with-the-dictator-of-chechnya.html Then of course there's this friendship of 2 loose-cannons: http://www.chicagotribune.com/sport...dennis-rodman-north-korea-20170623-story.html And maybe the ultimate example of an evil racist dictator coming face-to-face with racial equality in sport... well actually no hand-shake photo-op here:
True, but Hoeness would do anything to protect Bayern. And you could argue that making Özil a scapegoat serves Bayern`s interests, because it deflects from the terrible performance of Bayern`s German internationals at the WC.
The sour grapes against Kroos from the Bayern quarter is also really noticeable. They can't go too hard because he won so much, but they are always suggesting he is not really very good but just cashed in on the Real quality
No, you are absolutely right. Uli Hoeness is absolutely narcisstic and similar to Donald Trump. The thing is: he is regarded is the main architect for Bayern`s role as the dominating force in German football. He could literally kill people in public and most Bayern fans would forgive him.
Erdogan is slowly transforming Turkey into a dictatorship. Many German-Turks follow Turkish media and go to Turkish mosques. Erdogan is basically in charge of both. So obviously, from a German point of view, the latest developments in Turkey are worrysome. He has a huge influence on the Turkish community in Germany and elsewhere in Europa and he is speaking out against the "crime of assimilation". Generally speaking, German-Turks (as well as Dutch and Austrian Turks) are more conservative than Turks living in Istanbul.
Without wanting to step into whataboutism, from the Turkish perspective, DFB, Hoeness etc have done much to confirm what they've always suspected - and this pushes them further to Erdogan That is why this was all so stupid By all accounts Ozil has resisted that pull down the years and reasserted that he is german first I suspect that feeling is gone now
A million people died because of the Iraq War. There’s a direct line between the Iraq War and the rise of ISIS. That body count is, objectively speaking, orders of magnitude worse than anything Erdogan could dream of doing.
Nah, you clearly don’t live in Europe. The autochthonous population absolutely recognize and stigmatize people of Turkish, Moroccan, Libyan, Algerian, etc. descent, especially in a place like Germany. They may not be able to distinguish between those countries, but they definitely recognize when someone has an immigrant background from Turkey or northern africa, despite the fact that they might not be as obviously different looking to you. Those lines a blur a bit more in the Mediterranean countries because of the Moorish geneology having historically been mixed in.
There is certainly a view that western aggression caused the refugee crisis and then the right wing headbangers don't want to help and label migrants as terrorists and criminals. Meanwhile Turkey itself took a heavy load So in the german political context when you say Erdolf is the bad guy, lots of Turks have the opposite view And that divide is why it was a dumb mistake to escalate this