Sand League 2018-2019 Draft Conversation Thread

Discussion in 'Games & Fantasy' started by tarvinodos, Jul 21, 2018.

  1. tarvinodos

    tarvinodos Member+

    Jul 17, 2008
    Long Beach, CA
    I am just starting this thread so that the newbies can post and the league can start communicating.
     
  2. Autipho

    Autipho New Member

    Jul 20, 2018
    Hey guys! Not completely sure on the specifics of how it's done (as I've only used automated processes like Fantrax before), but I'm willing to learn!
     
  3. Rob Sweeney

    Rob Sweeney New Member

    Preston North End
    England
    Jul 20, 2018
    Im just checking in as well Il look forward to getting started though
     
  4. DrHeckle

    DrHeckle BigSoccer Supporter

    Jul 12, 2010
    Cairns
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    Wow - Tarv is like the Pied Piper ! :)

    Welcome all new players... I have posted the below on a few other threads, but for the new players will try and summarise where I am coming from..

    Way back in caveman times, before the FPL Site had a Draft option .. some clever blokes set up their own draft system, using this website and a Google Docs spreadsheet that monitored who had what player etc. This went on for years and was lots of fun. It is still is to be honest.. IF all managers do it correctly, update the Google Docs etc when making trades, so we do not get duplication of players. I, myself put my hand up as one of those guilty people, as I am in Australia and EPL kicks of around 10pm- mindnight here on a Saturday evening... and I am not usually in a sensible state to be trading players ... let alone updating a google doc.

    The All Rocks League had 4 divisions... form Top to bottom > Small Rocks, Very Small Rocks, Sand & Dust. This season the Small Rocks and VSR are full and ready to go, whereas Sand was losing numbers and we only had 3-4. A lot of the exodus was due to the step of updating Google Docs etc. So given that FPL now has an automated Draft League, I propose we use that for the lower divisions ( Sand & if enough numbers resurrect Dust) ... to enhance our chances of getting enough numbers, and to make the process as simple as possible for new players ...see below for my post :D


    Soooooo.... are we doing Sand/ Dust on the old Google Docs way, or the FPL site?

    I had pretty much committed to abandoning the old way and set up "Sand" on FPL site using the Draft feature.. and would sort out a Dust if there was enough bodies. Given there are so many new players, and season is fast approaching .. I I think that is best as I feel the google docs set up may be an issue, especially as I am a bit time poor these days.

    Maybe we do VSR & SR on old way, and Sand/ Maybe Dust the new way. The only thing that suffers really is the All Rocks League. I think we will recruit/ hold on to, more managers this way and it is a simple way to introduce new players. We could then all strive to get to SR / VSR so we can use Google Docs again :D:cool::p

    If we all keep busy and update all leagues on BSoccer could be fun.

    Thoughts all ?
     
  5. Autipho

    Autipho New Member

    Jul 20, 2018
    I think the official FPL Draft is the way to go. It's way less daunting, and prevents mistakes from happening.
     
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  6. DoctorJones24

    DoctorJones24 Member

    Aug 26, 1999
    OH
    Hey guys, I’m going to bail this year.
     
  7. frasermc

    frasermc Take your flunky and dangle

    Celtic
    Scotland
    Jul 28, 2006
    Newcastle-Upon-Tyne
    Club:
    Celtic FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Scotland
    Got to work with what's going to be best for the majority of you guys in Sand however, I'm skeptical about the FPL system.

    I appreciate it will work but auto selections give me the fear.

    Doing it our way you can always change course as many times as you like during the draft. If there is a run on keepers I may decide to move earlier for a keeper. Same for attackers etc. I like the flexibility our draft gives us in creating our teams.

    I will admit that a draft with a 2min window sounds exciting but for someone such as myself (full time work and a two small children family) I just wouldn't have the luxury of setting a couple of hours aside for it.

    Hope it all goes well and glad to see that Sand hasn't sunk!
     
  8. Autipho

    Autipho New Member

    Jul 20, 2018
    I think the main reason to not use FPL is our diverse timezones. Which might well be reason enough.
     
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  9. DrHeckle

    DrHeckle BigSoccer Supporter

    Jul 12, 2010
    Cairns
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    Agree-- and the effort/time needed to co-ordinate it all.

    I love the concept don't get me wrong, and agree it should be he cornerstone of the the League so SR/VSR run with it as we have experienced campaigners there. If we run the lower divisions on FPL, newbys can cut their teeth there... and we still do promotion/relegation etc. So if drop out of VSR you are stuck with FPL haha :). We should attract more new players too as we do not have to use the complicated GDocs system etc. There are least 2-3 players that have left All Rocks, who will join Sand if we go the FPL way .. so we are that many extra players already.
     
  10. tarvinodos

    tarvinodos Member+

    Jul 17, 2008
    Long Beach, CA
    Doesn't 1800 have the FPL draft going anyways as an alternate? People can join that right?

    Any draft date set? I am sending you info for the new Sand members.
     
  11. Pasha

    Pasha Member

    May 16, 2004
    St Louis, USA
    OK, I was just invited here, so I am going to ask some stupid questions. Is the league head-to-head? Are any keepers already taken by some existing teams, or do we start from scratch?
     
  12. DrHeckle

    DrHeckle BigSoccer Supporter

    Jul 12, 2010
    Cairns
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    Ok seems we have the numbers now for Sand League ... done the old fashioned way.

    I will get League set up and sort out Draft etc once we confirm the final 8 players. We may have an overfill, so then we could do a Dust League... this one may need to be done on the FPL site, given it will all be new players .. and we might need the non- google docs players who have left to make up the numbers for the 4th league
     
  13. tjh71

    tjh71 Member

    Jul 29, 2010
    Wollongong, Australia
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    Hello. I'm finally here. As they say, better late than never. Stoked to be back in sand. Not looking for promotion just avoiding relegation . If we are looking at dates to start the draft, im available from 1st August onwards.
    Cheers
    Tony
    Keysersoze Wanderers
     
  14. CRIBMAD

    CRIBMAD Member+

    Jul 16, 2015
    LIVERPOOL UNITED KINGDOM
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    who is starting the all rocks league ?
     
  15. tarvinodos

    tarvinodos Member+

    Jul 17, 2008
    Long Beach, CA
    I will get it started.
     
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  16. tarvinodos

    tarvinodos Member+

    Jul 17, 2008
    Long Beach, CA
    FC Yankees are out this year. So we can start confirming the new managers.
     
  17. Jacob Taylor

    Jacob Taylor Member

    Tottenham Hotspur
    United States
    Jul 21, 2018
    Newb here, I just got confirmed for the Sand League. To parrot Pasha, is this a classic or head to head league? I'm also available from August 2nd onward.
     
  18. Jacob Taylor

    Jacob Taylor Member

    Tottenham Hotspur
    United States
    Jul 21, 2018
    Also, I'm getting an error message when copying the Sand League code 331287-299589. Is this an issue for anyone else?
     
  19. Jacob Taylor

    Jacob Taylor Member

    Tottenham Hotspur
    United States
    Jul 21, 2018
    All good, nevermind
     
  20. DrHeckle

    DrHeckle BigSoccer Supporter

    Jul 12, 2010
    Cairns
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    This will be a Classic Scoring League
     
  21. Rob Sweeney

    Rob Sweeney New Member

    Preston North End
    England
    Jul 20, 2018
    Has the league been started yet ?
     
  22. Salah Gündoğan Winks!

    Barcelona
    Brazil
    Jul 24, 2018
    Hey guys, Just joined the league today. So is the draft happening on FPL site or someplace else?
     
  23. Norm Coyle

    Norm Coyle Member+

    Jul 14, 2015
    Fort Washington, Pennsylvania
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Looks like we have 4 managers of the 8 joined on the sand league, how about the other 4? Once we have the full 8 then we start the draft? Sooner the better so we don’t cut it too close to the start of the new EPL season.
     
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  24. DrHeckle

    DrHeckle BigSoccer Supporter

    Jul 12, 2010
    Cairns
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    OK - Draft Sheet is done and y 'all have been emailed.

    Link is here if you need it. Open the sheet and see if you can log in. It is a Google Doc so from what I understand you need a google account to log in.

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1sApynVKcE-1Eno88W0QDm5-2QZeFOfuB13O_NBqOjZc/edit?usp=sharing

    This is the Document where we all record their picks.

    Ignore the 2nd Page which is the Player List ,., that is last years and I do not think I have the time to set that up again but will do my best.

    We still have these managers to join League on FPL site ... we need to see you on there so we know you are in?

    We still need:
    • Keysersoze Wanderers; tjh71; Tony Hall
    • Icardi B: Robert Sweeney; Robert Sweeney
    • Broom Lions; Autipho; Claus Madsen
    • Mo Salah Mo Problems, Matt Conrad; Matt Conrad
    The Draft Thread is here

    https://www.bigsoccer.com/threads/sand-league-2018-19-official-draft-thread.2085711/


    - this is where we post our picks, then add the player to the Google Doc so no one else takes him.

    For a complete run donw of how it works .. check Tom's email to you all. Very helpful :thumbsup:

    Any questions post on THIS THREAD YOU ARE ON ... the Official Draft Thread is for Draft Picks ONLY
     
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