Are We Ever Going to Spend Money? - Transfers, Rumors, & Lies Thread

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  1. Anon.

    Anon. Member+

    Sep 4, 2007
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    Real Madrid
    180m (31m for Courtois + 150m for Hazard) for both is a good deal in the current market. It’s clear that Hazard is unlikely to sign a new contract and wants to come here (he’s been way too open about it). Who’s to say that he won’t actually hand in a transfer request based on:
    1) Chelsea not being in the CL next year
    2) New Chelsea management
    3) 6 years already at the club and good service in return
    4) Not leaving the club on a free and stuffing them up financially

    Abrahmovic may want 200m, but it doesn’t mean that he won’t settle for 150m. I say let’s get this one wrapped up, sell shirts and push the whole Hazard + Courtois marketing wagon in full force.
     
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  2. Anon.

    Anon. Member+

    Sep 4, 2007
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    Real Madrid
    Hazard can actually take on and get pass players, so it’s fine for him to hog the ball. Isco on the other hand can’t do that often enough and runs into rabbit holes.
     
  3. Ayayain

    Ayayain Member+

    Real Madrid
    Nov 29, 2017


    AS also say Courtois is close.

    I won't bother translating their fake news about Mbappe, and Neymar though. I have enough, and we know they won't let it go because selling dreams also sells papers.

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    Marca headline is also about Courtois.
     
  4. Excape Goat

    Excape Goat Member+

    Mar 18, 1999
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    We will end up paying Bayern Munich more than they are paying us for James. Hey, we signed the loan/buyout deal.... they signed the same deal.... James agreed to it.
     
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  5. natenate101

    natenate101 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Dec 16, 2006
    California, US
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This. I don't feel they are the same type of player aside from great dribbling ability. Hazard has more thrust and finishing ability. Isco needs more of that. Could work together with Marcelo to give defenses problems. But Hazard must increase his scoring output if he comes to Madrid. And I think he can.
     
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  6. Zidane05

    Zidane05 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jul 18, 2005
    Toronto
    Although I'm still not convinced of the fit here, I'd put a max offer of 115M on Hazard. They don't take it, you walk away. EPL window closes on August 10th, so they have to hold on for 23 days. Similar to Coutinho, you can come back and negotiate in the winter, when he'll have 1.5 years left on his contract. But what's different then is Hazard won't be cup tied. If that doesn't work out, and he's still a target next summer, than you can get him then. I wouldn't go all desperate for him now.

    If you don't go with Hazard, you're still pretty good up front as is. You can role out an Isco/Bale/Asensio or Isco/Benzema/Bale variation out there. You keep around whoever performs better from Odegaard and Vinicius, and you have Benzema/Bale/Isco/Asensio/Lucas/Odegaard or Vinicius. I wouldn't mind taking a small gamble on a player like Martial in that case.
     
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  7. Ankur Upadhyay

    Feb 18, 2013
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    I think we should take a gamble on Martial regardless of other deals. That guy can blow up as a striker. 60-70 mil should be enough. He is only 22 so we can flip him for the same amount even if he doesn't perform up to expectations.
     
  8. MiamiNative0722

    MiamiNative0722 Member+

    May 25, 2013
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    Real Madrid
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    United States
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  9. fierro

    fierro Member+

    Jan 30, 2007
    El Chuco
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sausagefest.LOL
     
  10. meringues

    meringues Member+

    Real Madrid
    United States
    Aug 8, 2008
    Wisconsin
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Agree. For me Hazard is superfluous and not really likely to make that much of a difference given that we're in pretty good shape at his position. We'd be dropping a lot of money to solve a problem that doesn't exist.

    We need a capable 9. I'd rather spend the money that way.
     
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  11. Zidane05

    Zidane05 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jul 18, 2005
    Toronto
    Unfortunately, no one really out there stands out or is worth the investment. So we wait.
     
  12. meringues

    meringues Member+

    Real Madrid
    United States
    Aug 8, 2008
    Wisconsin
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Yep. I like the idea, though, of taking a punt on someone like a Martial or another talent who has the natural gifts but hasn't quite panned out elsewhere. I think people underestimate the extent to which players' destinies are influenced by their surroundings. Players' control over their own destinies is usually an illusion. Only the true GOATs tend to overcome bad situations.

    My hope is that, with a new manager and after scoring one of the greatest goals in the club's history, Bale is ready to have his best season. Like everyone else, I'm worried about his health, but the time is ripe for a guy of his quality to really make his mark.
     
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  13. Raul_Madrid

    Raul_Madrid Member+

    Feb 16, 2010
    Vancouver
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    I am not sure what everyone is so excited for Courtois, you guys think we had a keeper problem ? Did Navas under-perform and needs competition? What problem is Courtois going to solve?
    Honestly, same goes with Hazard (to a bit lesser degree) I dont think we even need Hazard when we got Isco ! I think our problem is going to be Striker ! not Keeper !
     
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  14. Raul-7

    Raul-7 Member+

    Real Madrid
    Spain
    Aug 17, 2006
    I really don't get it; James is better than Hazard and younger. Why don't we just wait for him?
     
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  15. Nathanial Essex

    Nathanial Essex Member+

    Real Madrid
    England
    Mar 19, 2017
    Or just bring him back. Whatever we have to pay Bayern shouldn't be too much more from what they paid us. Assuming we don't pay James' salary at all, we should come up even.
     
  16. HZinho

    HZinho Member+

    Apr 2, 2013
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    If I'm being honest here, I believe lots of people somewhat underestimate Hazard and his potential impact. I'm convinced he'd be a succes. He's a must as far as I'm concerned. Courtois is also a no-brainer really. The club would be taking huge steps if they made both signings.

    Also, with respect to Hazard, we have to sign him now or never. He's 27, will be 28 in January I believe. So this is the moment to spend on him. We'll get at least 4 good years out of the guy and then Vinicius and/or Rodrygo can take over. The comparisons with Isco are a bit weird TBH. Isco is a midfielder, Hazard a forward.

    The only position that requires reinforcement after these two are brought in, is the striker position.
     
  17. Eddie

    Eddie Member+

    Oct 19, 2005
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    How much can we rely on a guy that misses 50% of the games every season? Everything else you said is true, but you minimized the biggest issue: his injuries. It's not a thing you overlook when it comes to Bale.

    70M for a guy on the last year of his contract who wants to move? Nah.
     
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  18. HZinho

    HZinho Member+

    Apr 2, 2013
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    Real Madrid
    Agreed, his quality was never in question. He's made of glass, that's his problem.
     
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  19. Hendrix22

    Hendrix22 Member+

    Feb 28, 2010
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Both of them and Bale out for 150 million would be the best. I dont see Bale as a player in Lopetegui's system and getting rid of him will finally put an end to the endless cycle of getting injured, coming back and demanding to be instantly reinserted in the starting lineup.
     
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  20. Saeta Rubia

    Saeta Rubia Member+

    May 28, 2010
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  21. ABB94

    ABB94 Member+

    Feb 18, 2015
    England, UK
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    I don’t disagree but how would it affect the balance of the team if both players want to hold onto the ball?

    One of them would need to modify their game especially if they’re gonna be playing from the same side (Isco LCM & Hazard LW).
     
  22. Eddie

    Eddie Member+

    Oct 19, 2005
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Isco would be the playmaker while Hazard would be one of the end points, trying to either score or assist to CF. It can work out.
     
  23. TitoTata

    TitoTata Member+

    Jun 26, 2014
    Well coming from a Barca standpoint I'd much rather you got Hazard as I think that you'd be practically unbeatable with Neymar in the team . He's got a lot to prove now and I'm expecting a big season from him .


    Just praying we get MBappe before you do because he WILL be a game changer imho .
     
  24. ABB94

    ABB94 Member+

    Feb 18, 2015
    England, UK
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Hazard prefers and is much more suited playing the playmaker role and starting from deep as he’s a ball carrier so simply scoring or playing the final ball for the scorer isn’t his game. He’s also not a reliable goalscorer (career high just 19 goals all comps in a top league) but it might be a different case in a set-up like Madrid’s where we don’t need any more playmakers. Let’s hope it does work out.
     
  25. Raul-7

    Raul-7 Member+

    Real Madrid
    Spain
    Aug 17, 2006
    What puzzles me is; we need to sell Benzema and get a real striker. He can no longer hide behind Ronaldo now that he's gone.
     

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