Germany - South Korea I-- 27 June --I 3rd Group Game

If you look at all of our tournaments under Löw, you have to say the only one where we played well all tournament and didn’t get supremely lucky was 2010.

In 2014 we could easily have gone home in the group or r16.

2016 we played like trash in every match except against a very very bad Italy side.

In 2008 we were poor in all matches, almost eliminated in the gs and again lucky to beat a poor Turkey in the semifinal.


Even the CC we were poor. Outplayed in every match and won because of some lucky goals against mexico and a mistake by chile.

 

Lol to all the posters think reus is some kind of messiah, he's nothing more than a honest player, no pace, no skill set

 

Hummels has been garbage for some time now. He's basically only famous nowadays for having the most attractive WAG on the team.

 

Who said he was a Messiah? But definitely not just an 'honest player, no pace, no skill set'. I am skeptical of your players evaluation skills.

 

Agreed. When was the last time a true striker broke through? Gomez? I don't count Werner, who is clearly more suited to play on the wing, and only plays up front because there simply is nobody else. But hey, at least we won the Confederations Cup.

Btw, when did this become a thing? When did we start valueing meaningless C-level titles like this? Might as well brag about winning the effing T-Com Cup.

I have defended Jogi Löw for over a decade. When the haters were crying about "soft football", I said they had no idea what they were talking about. When the team won the title in 2014, I felt vindicated.
I am convinced it's time for Löw to go. Fourteen years is enough. Things have become too convenient and comfortable. There is no trophy for "longest tenured coach at the WC".

 

The squad was talented and to most peoples choosing, but the system was wrong and outdated.

It was easy to play against, park the bus and counter attack. When the opposition packed the defence we struggled every game.

For the system to work, it had to rely on quick interchanges but we were too slow and methodical.
Also when the crosses failed to hit their mark, or the one two's broke down, we didn't have the players, sharpness or energy to win the ball back quickly.

Khedira who performed well in the last World Cup, has aged and loss his engine/drive, so we lacked a box to box player.

In defensive midfield apart from Rudy we didn't have anyone else, who could cover the ground quickly, shame he was injured, Low should have brought someone else to cover that position.

We could only create chances when the opposition tired and when we began to fill the box.
This left the defense so bare, holes appeared and we were exposed and outnumbered on too many occasion.

In terms of chances as far as I can remember, they came from high or curling crosses, which landed on the head of Gomez, Hummels or Groetzka.

So in hindsight we should have started with Gomez, giving him a chance to run into form, he was too rusty but has never really performed on the big stage either.

We didn't really have anyone else who could have been a focal point, we lacked this at the last Euros (big time) but nothing was done about it in the 2 years since (Werner plays off the striker as others have mentioned). Lows has not learned from his mistake.

Muller was out of sorts, should have been dropped, but was kept on as has performed in World Cups past.

The worst performing players were Muller, Draxler, Khedira and Grotzeka today. Everyone else was a victim of the system.

Sane, we should have really integrated him into the team sooner, but he's one for the future.
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There is no need to make stuff up. No one here even remotely called him or sees him as the messiah that can lift the team up by himself. Of those who made the tourney, he was the best for his position. As a Dortmund fan, I feel sorry for him because he missed previous tournaments due to injuries and he would have been part of the 2014 winners. Instead his only WC is this travesty.

 

I'm not going to try to dissect reasons for what went wrong and how exactly they managed to put up an even worse performance than the match against Mexico but I will say this:

This meltdown was coming. Ever since 2014, German clubs and players have regressed...even the ones who were on top and can always count on. You can argue that bringing in Germany's C team that won the confed cup would have been a more sensible decision than bringing their so called A team. I'm not even going to bring up age because let's be honest here, that team isn't even that old aside from Khedira so the lack of pace in them is no excuse. Anyway this is a generational thing. We're back to square one and have to start over and hope better and more talented players are born for 20 years from now.

 

Not very far, they were actually lucky against chille

 

I believe that in a better, more stable tactical system that doesn't ridiculously expose defence, and also without such a high line that Neuer and Boateng especially and maybe also Hector can all still contribute. Neuer and Boateng are not old yet, and both can still be bosses in their position. However they should be made to earn their place, not get picked on reputation.

 

Feels just like the last BvB Season. I've seen these types of game all year from Dortmund. Parked bus winning or tying on counters while we had huge possession percentage and high number of worthless shots..

 

Just finished the match & hahahahahaha

If Jogi hasn't already been fired then I'll get mad, otherwise, all I can say is it is about damn time. This moron eliminated us in 3 of the past 4 tourneys through massive incompetence...oh and Khedira, Draxler & Müller better have retired after that match or I might need to pull a Tonya Harding on the three of them right before the Euros.

I was still hoping that maybe the players would just mutiny and pick their own squad so we could go on to win it all again despite the coach...like we did in 2014...but in the end that would've just kept Jogi in the job for even longer, and he should've been fired 6 years ago. It's a shock that we're out in the groupstages but with what a complete ****ing moron jogi is, it's ultimately not surprising that relying on Boateng & Ozil to be our entire midfield on their own didn't work.

A pity we never got to see what this team could look like if they ever played with 11 players at this tourney.

 

They were lucky in all matches. We were outplayed in every game.

 

He wasn't impressive enough for you in the 5 minutes that he actually saw the pitch? Or did his picture with Erdogan turn Jogi into a moron...6 years ago?

 

The bavarians did that last time. Now the two biggest leaders from that group are gone, leaving only hummels and muller.

 

Gundogan and Ozil aren’t good enough.

 

Are you retarded or just that bigoted that you will reach this badly to find excuses for our moron coach? This is a serious question.

 

Those 3 decisions and leaving Sane killed pur chances. Löw clearly lost the lockerroom. You could see it today. The team didn’t even try today.

 

Jogi was a moron last year and I said so on here repeatedly. But sure, let's blame the 10 who spent all game dropping into his own half because of how destitute our midfield was, that makes sense.

You can find whatever excuses you want for Jogi's incompetence, but the results of his stupidity are on my DVR if you'd like to watch them.

 

I understand that Erdogate was an unwelcome distraction, however the team has been mediocre for a lot longer then just since that incident. To hide behind that would be to show a very weak mental attitude. If the players cannot put 100% commitment in when they are representing their country, regardless of anything else, on the biggest stage then they can all ******** off.

 

Ok, what are rues strengths, I read speed and dribbling, I've certainly not seen it