MLS 2018 Week 13 Continuous PBP [Multiple R]

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by ArsenalMetro, May 22, 2018.

  1. TheJoeGreene

    TheJoeGreene Member+

    Aug 19, 2012
    The Lubbock Texas
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Going back to the horrendous VAR call in the LAFC-DC match, looking at the upcoming schedule for DC makes it that much tougher to swallow. A goal there leads to a likely 3 points, moving them ahead of two teams in the East with road games against obviously scuffling Seattle and Toronto before the World Cup break.

    Then it's NER and LAG on the road before finally opening up Audi Field. I have no doubt they're not a playoff team, but the style they played on Saturday was the most exciting thing I think I've ever watched an Olsen team try and they were robbed. Keep that style going into the two easier road games and now you're looking at being within shouting distance of the last playoff spot in the East with a schedule heavily loaded towards home games the second half of the season.

    VAR simply cannot get that call wrong. It was a dive and a handball in the box. There is no way to legitimately come up with another call in that situation. The fact that it's even less egregious of an error than the non review in the SKC-Cbus match shows how far the technology and officiating both have to go before they're not an embarrassment to the sport.
     
  2. Justin O

    Justin O Member+

    Seattle Sounders
    United States
    Nov 30, 1998
    on the run from the covid
    Club:
    Seattle
    Especially when the player's on the bench by that time.
     
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  3. Blong

    Blong Member+

    Oct 29, 2002
    Midwest, the real one.
    So it was just the way that the question was posed?

    How about: "Was such and such play reviewed?" and then, "why was a red not given?"
     
  4. JayRockers!

    JayRockers! Member+

    Aug 4, 2001
    There’s a CBA between the referees and journalists? MLS/Pro are a farce.

    The referees don’t have to answer, but they should be asked. Every time. If not, journalists aren’t doing their job.

    Thx,

    Jay!
     
  5. Gamecock14

    Gamecock14 Member+

    May 27, 2010
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    A clarification from someone who asks questions.



    You can ask why a call was made, not ask what happened in VAR.
     
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  6. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC


    :thumbsup:
     
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  7. ManiacalClown

    ManiacalClown Member+

    Jun 27, 2003
    South Jersey
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's between the refs and PRO.

    Anyway, I suppose they can ask all they want. Refs just can't answer.
     
  8. Gamecock14

    Gamecock14 Member+

    May 27, 2010
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Isn't this early? Isn't the game at 6:30?

    Bolivia seems to have brought almost no one with international experience. This game is going to cause the worst of overreactions.
     
  9. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Kickoff is at 6:55 eastern, but yes to the rest of your post.
     
  10. JayRockers!

    JayRockers! Member+

    Aug 4, 2001
    Congrats again. My wife won today but I didn’t. We needed a little help from our friends ;)
     
  11. ManiacalClown

    ManiacalClown Member+

    Jun 27, 2003
    South Jersey
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Haha thanks. Those late questions were completely in my wheelhouse. It was like heaven. Screenshot_20180528-161331.jpeg Screenshot_20180528-161405.jpeg
     
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  12. Darkwing McQuack

    Darkwing McQuack BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 11, 2011
    Morrisville, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I know we’re young, but this game doesn’t inspire confidence in me.
     
  13. code1390

    code1390 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 25, 2007
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And we now know the answer was #1.

    Statement from PRO.

    The Professional Referee Organization (PRO) takes very seriously the training, education, and proficiency of officials.

    During the 54th minute of the match between Sporting Kansas City and Columbus Crew SC on May 27, violent conduct was displayed by Crew SC midfielder Cristian Martinez. The incident was not seen by the on-field officials. However, the Video Assistant Referee (VAR) checked and analyzed the play, but incorrectly assessed the nature of the offense.

    According to the Laws of the Game, striking or attempting to strike an opponent constitutes a direct red card. The non-showing of a red card to Martinez for violent conduct was a clear and obvious error, and the VAR failed in not recommending a review for the non-issuing of a red card.

    PRO meticulously studies every use and every non-use of video review, and will ensure that these errors are addressed as part of the ongoing training, education and development of Video Assistant Referees.
    And a tweet from Webb

    "No Nate, he just got too wrapped up trying to confirm whether there was contact or not, rather than looking at the big picture, which showed at least an attempt to strike, which is a red card offense and one which VAR should get involved in."​
     

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