Getting around Russia

Discussion in 'World Cup 2018 - Russia' started by Simon Overall, Oct 2, 2017.

  1. Fedechat

    Fedechat Member

    Argentina
    Apr 30, 2014
    South Florida, USA
    I decided to cancel one of my train ticket because I just want to change the seat, keep in mine there is a fee when you cancel, you will get from 150 to 250 RUB less but is not a lot, just like 2 to 4 USD per ticket.

    I usually have 2 tickets on the same route, one overnight and one fast train, I do recommend that or book tickets you may need because you can always have a last minute change of plans.
     
  2. LuckyLuke

    LuckyLuke Member

    Dec 6, 2011
    New York City
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Poland
    I had this problem with my CC's switched to debit card and it worked. But, only once tried to book different train with the same card and i have been unsuccessful. i didn't see paypal option. where did you see that?
     
  3. Simon Overall

    Simon Overall Member

    Sydney FC
    Australia
    May 7, 2014
    Sydney
    Club:
    Sydney FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    I've been happy using Real Russia for trains.

    http://realrussia.co.uk/

    Service has been good and they even gave me a 81 pound refund without me expecting it.
     
  4. CaptainRooney

    CaptainRooney New Member

    England
    Oct 13, 2017
    Hi Everyone,

    I am planning on attending the England v Belgium match and have reserved seats on the free train from Moscow to Kaliningrad for my friends and I (UK/American citizens) but just learned that I need additional visas for this particular train....

    I sent an email to support@transport2018.com (the email address on the free train website) about transit to Kaliningrad and they said

    "To travel on an additional train to Kaliningrad citizens of foreign countries must have a document authorizing transit through the territory of the Republic of Lithuania and the Republic of Belarus. In regards of obtaining the appropriate documents please kindly refer to the relevant embassy."
    Are there any American/UK citizens out there who have been able to get a transit visa for Belarus/Lithuania? If so, how much was it? If it's going to be $100+ just for a transit visa, it might not even make sense to take the train and go through the visa hassle. It might make more sense to simply purchase a flight directly to Kaliningrad from Moscow.
     
  5. Fevernova99

    Fevernova99 Member

    May 3, 2003
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    I used tutu.ru, they had the paypal option but they do charge about 7-10% extra.

    I was unable to get rzd.ru to work with any of my cards so i gave up :)
     
  6. Licho

    Licho Member

    River Plate
    Argentina
    Jan 10, 2018
    Houston, TX
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Did you happen to look in any Belarusian/Lithuanian government webpage?

    Its 60 Euros for Belarus
    You don't need Visa for Lithuania

    http://mfa.gov.by/en/visa/consularfeerates/
    https://keliauk.urm.lt/en/incoming/united-states
    https://keliauk.urm.lt/en/incoming/united-kingdom
     
  7. Licho

    Licho Member

    River Plate
    Argentina
    Jan 10, 2018
    Houston, TX
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Well, they refunded 81 pounds because the overcharged you more than 81+ pounds in the first place...

    I understand that RZD might fail, but like I posted before, your second choice should be Tutu.Ru or https://www.ufs-online.ru. You can look into my post on March 17th where I compared the prices for all sites, and these two were surcharging "reasonable" markups. Everything else is quite a ripoff
     
  8. leonidas

    leonidas Moderator
    Staff Member

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    May 25, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Did you call your bank? I gave Chase a call saying I was going to make a purchase on a Russian train website. The guy then explained that if it was declined, it was a Verified By Visa issue, and that I would need to call Chase while I was trying to make the purchase for them to push it through.
     
  9. Fedechat

    Fedechat Member

    Argentina
    Apr 30, 2014
    South Florida, USA
    Chase sucks most of the time, I called before to make an spending notification and on two cards (wife and me) with different agents mine got rejected while wife's cc worked, this was on the first phase (2nd attempt went trough on my card).

    On the last FCFS last week I called again a day before and they rejected, it was the same Chase CC that was used before (FIFA tickets), got txt and email asking to confirm the transaction, click yes and tried again without success. I called and the person have to do an special modification and then it finally went trough.

    When I used my Barclays Mastercard cc it was much better, I didn't have to call, the system will ask you to send a confirmation code by my email and I got il in matter of seconds, after inputting the code the transaction was approved right away.

    I do have other cc from others bank and most of them have foreigner transactions fees or they are Amex.
     
  10. Fevernova99

    Fevernova99 Member

    May 3, 2003
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Yea I called multiple cards and stayed with them on the phone, they all said they see the charge and did not block it but the site is still returning declined. Told me to retry later, I tried next day and still failed.

    I think (/hope) i'm a one off based on the others here so tutu.ru is an alternative with paypal if anyone else is having an issue, tutu sent me a pdf boarding coupon about a min after my purchase. Its about $5 usd more for each ticket.
     
  11. leonidas

    leonidas Moderator
    Staff Member

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    May 25, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Hmm weird. I think Chase has to then call Visa to push it thru. The Sapphire Reserve guy I spoke to seemed pretty knowledgeable.
     
  12. Fedechat

    Fedechat Member

    Argentina
    Apr 30, 2014
    South Florida, USA
    I have a Visa Infinite with CNB and I didn't have any issue with RZD, I didn't tried my Sapphire Reserve or any other CC.
     
  13. Licho

    Licho Member

    River Plate
    Argentina
    Jan 10, 2018
    Houston, TX
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Used Visa CC from Chase 3 times with no issues in RZD
     
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  14. leonidas

    leonidas Moderator
    Staff Member

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    May 25, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    I had no issues with my Chase Sappire Reserve on RZD, but I did call Chase ahead of time and he said that if there was an issue with the card even after getting the OK in the Chase system, that it would likely be a Verified by Visa issue.

    I was actually quite relieved that there were no issues on RZD. I didnt have much room for error as I was after the morning Sapsan train on the day of the Moscow semi. That train sold out in 20 minutes.
     
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  15. Simon Overall

    Simon Overall Member

    Sydney FC
    Australia
    May 7, 2014
    Sydney
    Club:
    Sydney FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    I tried Tutu and my card failed three times, called my bank and they said there should be no issue.

    Real Russia was a recommendation from a well known blogger.

     
  16. Ch107

    Ch107 Member

    Nacional
    Colombia
    Feb 27, 2018
    It all depends on what you are looking for.. if you are willing to wake up early and do it your self then yes... but o just called real russia... gave them all my itinerary, and thats it... they did all of it... i knew i was getting charged extra but to me it was worth it, specially because of costumer support, had to make changes and one phone call and it was done
     
  17. Chiyakkutan

    Chiyakkutan Member

    Jan 10, 2014
    Hawai'i
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    In Japanese there is a saying “ten people, ten colors”. I had the exact opposite experience as you.

    I jumped from Barclays to Chase Sapphire Reserve. Ran into a few snags with Barclays before, and none with Chase. Booked tickets with FIFA twice this Cup, and train tickets two separate times on RZD, with zero problems.

    I did call Chase the first time, as I didn’t want any issues. After that though, the rest of the charges were a few months later, with no notification to them beforehand.

    As others have said, if you want to be sure, give them a call and have them note your account to be expecting a charge.

    Aloha
     
  18. Licho

    Licho Member

    River Plate
    Argentina
    Jan 10, 2018
    Houston, TX
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    I’m not here to tell you how not to waste your money. You probably paid a 14 usd fee for a ticket change that doing it yourself would had a cost of 4 usd, just to start.
    If waking early was a problem, then I don’t know how you even got tickets for the matches... anyway let not fool ourselves, using the official web is really easy and there is no need to pay the middle man, unless you are having trouble with the CC. Still if you need to use a 3rd party, use the ones already mentioned.
    If you want to pay a LOT more and maybe get a refund and just sit while other people do what you are perfectly capable to do by your own, be my guest
     
  19. Licho

    Licho Member

    River Plate
    Argentina
    Jan 10, 2018
    Houston, TX
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    IM sorry about the tone of my post, but with so many people here trying to stretch the buck to spend as much as possible I think is kind of irresponsible to recommend third parties sites for trains without acknowledging the surplus they charge for that, or justify it only on convenience. It like recommending people to buy tickets on viagogo or stubhub because “you avoid the hassle of waiting in line at 4am” but without acknowledging that you will pay a lot $$$$$ more
    about the
     
  20. leonidas

    leonidas Moderator
    Staff Member

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    May 25, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    The reality is that for some of these high demand trains, you were better off going through RZD.

    Many of my friends used Russian Trains and it was a disaster as this 3rd party site could not get the trains that RZD offered in time. Of course, their customer support was supportive and they were able to get at least a train on the day of the Moscow semifinal. But, it was more expensive as they were too slow. So not only do you deal with the dynamic RZD train pricing, but then you get stiffed by the 3rd party's fees.

    I stayed up till 2am to buy the train ticket on RZD. I entered in my passport info and my 3 other friends' details a few days before. I got the exact train I wanted and paid the equivalent of $70 USD for each ticket. Of course, my card could have been rejected and that would've totally screwed me.

    It's a 50/50 chance in the end.
     
  21. Eryqk

    Eryqk New Member

    Juventus
    Peru
    Apr 19, 2018
    Peru
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    Where can I book that night bus???
     
  22. hearts123

    hearts123 Member+

    May 18, 2009
    Hi I am trying to book the free trains but my tickets are just provisional IE for matches my team MAY qualify for but I keep gettting this
    "The number of your ticket or confirmed request for the match is entered incorrectly or cannot pass the check"

    Is there any way to do this I have the FAN ID but no ticket number as such.
    Thanks
     
  23. Petersonnn

    Petersonnn Member+

    Jan 7, 2016
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    I know I am a little late to the party so I would like to go to Saint Petersburg after the Samara QF. Only one plane direct, more than 300€... So any other options. Do you see a new plane popping up to make this transfer easier or no other choice? ANyone selling that ticket maybe?

    REgards:

    Peter
     
  24. Nick Kharchenko

    FC Baltika, Kaliningrad, Russia
    Russia
    Oct 20, 2017
    Nat'l Team:
    Russia

    We are waiting for a new agreement between Russia and Belarus to be signed any time soon. There is a chance that FanID will be ok for entering Belarus. Stay tuned.
     
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  25. Petersonnn

    Petersonnn Member+

    Jan 7, 2016
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    You really booked it for 1550 RUB? Now it is 140€ :( I was late ...
     

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