tall guy, are you comparing MLS to the WNBA? Randomly around the country, I've seen way more people wearing soccer gear than jerseys from NHL teams.
This is only partly true. Single entity, which people over exaggerate anyways, doesn't make every team equal in value. It might place an equal basement that all teams share, but really the only part of the value that can be considered equal is the portion of SUM that they have, and the league wide contracts (Sponsors and such) that they share. After that, there are numerous things that change the value from one team to another. Obviously a potential owner would pay more for Atlanta right now than many other teams... because Atlanta has a huge rabid fan base that is bringing in more money to that team. Teams share some of their revenue with the league... but not nearly all of it. So a team selling more tickets, has more value. A team in huge cities like New York and Los Angeles have more value for their potential. Teams like SKC and RSL have more value because of recent infrastructure projects like training centers they have build that other teams don't have. It can even be argued that a potential investor would rather buy a LAG or DCU because of the trophy history over a Colorado or Dallas. There are many ways to value franchises, I have only named a few things that affect value from team to team. But there are many.
I'm not sure this is true.. While the teams are "owned" by the league, the I/O's do have the operating license for the team that give them the same or very similar local control over the team that would come from having independent teams and, as we saw with Vergara and Chivas, those licenses can't just be revoked by the league. What connections there are between the teams' value is the revenue sharing and salary budgets, neither of which are likely to go away if/when the league does away with single entity...
Yeah....the team values all look equal: https://www.forbes.com/sites/chriss...soccers-most-valuable-teams-2/2/#48aafb5f199c
MLS will split into divisions as soon as there are over 24 teams in the league and stay that way. 25-28 teams: 4 divisions of 6-7 teams each 29-30 teams: 6 divisions of 4-5 teams each 31-32 teams: 8 divisions of 3-4 teams each You can play a 2 games against each divisional rival and 1 game against every other team in the league, with any extra game being played against some other team within the conference but outside the division. Even the playoff system we have now will work with any of those formats, with each division winner making the playoffs with wildcards for the remaining conference teams with the best overall season record. I don't think they'll expand beyond 32 teams because the USL will take the remaining clubs and grow into a bloated 3 conference, 48 team league. All remaining professional teams will play in regionalized Division 3 leagues and everyone will get a chance to make it to the CCL if they can will the US Open Cup.
There actually was major news on the Wayne County jail land swap in March too. Just because the Detroit bid is silent in regards to the media doesn't mean they are silent in regards to working with MLS. Given that everything in the news in regards to Cincinnati, Sacramento and Austin has been bad, that's probably a good idea. But, now that the jail site land swap is happening who knows how that impacts the bid. That can happen with or without MLS because the real estate is valuable on its own. But, the extra months have given the Detroit bid options in regards to MLS that they didn't have in December.
You do realize that the land swap/Gratiot site has nothing to do with the current bid, right? There is absolutely ZERO chance they revert back to a SSS on that land after making the push to Ford Field and bringing the Ford family along for the ride. I agree with you about the silence from us in Detroit, but IMO, that is not a good thing. If MLS was going to award us a spot, they would have done so already. This delay tells me they want Cincy and/or Sac and are waiting for them to take care of whatever issues they had. I just don't see us getting in during this round, or the next round with the current stadium plan.
Statement from Berding today: In Newport, we would happily build our stadium at the Ovation site, and appreciate all the support from the business, civic and neighborhood communities in Northern Kentucky. However, we have not been able to reach agreement on site development and financing plans with Corporex.
zoikes scoob, yeah, did not know that nugget. Sounds like they ummm......better reach an agreement. and fast. this is compounded by this: http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/sp...cle_ecabafb4-3859-11e8-9811-63c68aadcea2.html Phoenix might legitimately be closer to being ready than any of the motley crew. if nothing changes by this summer maybe MLS pushes forward with them (i was in scottsdale last summer and i literally cannot fathom playing soccer there, curious how theyd make that work)
Cincy city council presser at 10:30 today. Cincy could use some good news. If Cincy & Sac both do not come together, I could see a scenario where Columbus stays AND Austin gets a team (if MLS is okay with McKalla).
FC Cincinnati will have a stadium in the West End it by extension, it will have about the best location for a stadium outside of maybe Portland.
Glad light is at the end of this long tunnel. I do worry with how much FC Cincinnati is paying out to make this happen if we'll be handicapped financially in terms of player signings if we get into MLS.
Presser was a council member saying the stadium had his support. Do not know all the inside baseball of the council vote, other than they need 5 of 9. Also said club agreed to some kind of sharing of profit/payments to schools. They need the CPS (school board) to approve as well. Looks like west end or bust as FC Cincy acknowledged issues with Oakley & Newport. But progress on West end.
I think it’s pretty clear what berding said in July/August (when the post was made) is vastly different then how this all played out.
happy for you guys, just when you think Cincy is dead in the water, they get breath of life that could get them to start 2019. Just hope sacramento can find their prince charming and MLS is kind enough to let them in too.
I'm not entirely sure why Cincinnati and Sacramento entering at the same time would have anything to do with Columbus and Austin both getting a team.. If Precourt sells the Crew, Austin isn't getting a time any time soon and I'm not sure CBP would want to pay MLS's expansion fee if Precourt gets his way...
The sale price and expansion fee will probably be the same. The purported offer was slightly above the expansion fee.
You see, people who use the press to try to leverage their way to a better position tend say things that are not true. That's precisely the point of my initial skepticism.
The offer was rumored to be $160 million. Current round fees were supposed to be $150 million. I doubt people getting bids in 2020 time frame will be $200 million. Maybe $160-$180 million. Who knows. Anyhow, this will be done by September, so the fee shouldn't be much above the current expansion fee, maybe $160 million should suffice.