2018 Preseason

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  1. Geneva

    Geneva LA for Life

    Feb 5, 2003
    Southern Cal
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We've moved from Garcia to Carrasco, and I think it's for the better. Garcia wasn't our major problem last year, though - he at least had desire and work rate, and once at least he was our best person on the field (shudder). I was wondering if anyone knows what he's moved on to.

    It was time to move on for and from Zardes, and although he is a great guy I'm kind of relieved he's gone.
     
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  2. L.A. Native

    L.A. Native Member+

    Aug 1, 2013
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    #152 L.A. Native, Feb 11, 2018
    Last edited: Feb 11, 2018
    While true, I'd like him better on the wing instead of Ema. Hell, I'd take LD back instead of Gio to play a half at a time...

    I think it was the 22nd minute, Romain made a nice overlapping run close to the box and Gio flat ignored him. Romain was pretty pissed.

    edit: found it, about 21:40 on the game clock:

    You don't see the frustration from Romain on camera but, it was there. I'm gonna go back and watch at least the first half from tv view to confirm what I saw in person. Gio was playing half speed and missed at least two passes that would've lead him into space but he was being lazy.
     
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  3. Geneva

    Geneva LA for Life

    Feb 5, 2003
    Southern Cal
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I saw that missed overlap too, and several others in the game as well. I hope the team will learn to take what is offered in the course of the game and try to go forward when opportunity arises. It's frustrating to see an obvious attacking pass not even tried.

    EDIT: actually I see that happen so often in games that I wonder if I just don't understand how it's played sometimes.
     
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  4. OC Galaxy Fans

    Jul 30, 2009
    Placentia
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yes - Thank you LA Chargers / NFL.
     
  5. skydog

    skydog Member+

    Aug 1, 1999
    Durham, NC
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    #155 skydog, Feb 11, 2018
    Last edited: Feb 11, 2018
    Great example of Gio being Gio - Romaine sets up the perfect give-n-go play, times his run exquisitely and then Gio just flat out kills the play by refusing to use him. If GDS makes the return pass Romaine is behind the defense, running at speed with the ball at his feet, putting their backline under all kinds of pressure. But Noooo....Instead of reading the play and going along with it Gio decides to go for his PassBack Pete impersonation and kill off yet another Galaxy attack. :(

    And imo Geneva you understand the game just fine. It makes sense to occasionally (maybe 10% of the time?) use the overlapper as a dummy run, especially if the overlapper has drawn a defender out wide and that has created weakness in the central defense. But that should be the exception, not the rule. If the overlapper has timed his run such that he will likely get in behind the defense (like this case) if he gets the ball back, he damn well should get the ball back.

    I love watching Messi, a player who possesses the most exquisite 1v1 skills in the world and would have an excuse to be a ball hog. Still he is very good at using his overlapping teammates. He will repeatedly draw a defender or two and then - without seeming to look - lay off the perfect pass right into the stride of an overlapping teammate. All of these nice layoffs to teammates in turn sets him up to occasionally fake the pass but instead cut to the inside. That well tuned mix keeps him unpredictable and the defense honest. But the key is that he makes the right decision 90% of the time. (Think of Gio and then go 180 degrees in the opposite direction.)

    While on this topic I've noticed that overlapping runners seem to be ignored a lot in LigaMX. I'm not sure why that is, but it is a pretty noticeable trend for the league. I've asked my stepson - who played professionally for a short while in Mexico and is currently a LigaMX fan - about my perception. He said it happens way too much and frustrated him as a player and now frustrates him as a fan.
     
  6. Geneva

    Geneva LA for Life

    Feb 5, 2003
    Southern Cal
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Thanks skydog - nice to be validated. Is it sometime the case that the forward pass isn't attempted because the passer just isn't facing the right angle to make the pass properly? Are they not setting themselves up to do it? If they did, would it just telegraph to the defense?

    I'll be looking for a Gio / Kamara connection in the next few games. That will be crucial, IMO. Saw one play attempted in this game that was a good try.
     
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  7. L.A. Native

    L.A. Native Member+

    Aug 1, 2013
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    IMO, yes, all of that. So many variables to consider. There are lots of ways to keep the defense guessing though. I'd like passer to at least make the step(s) to begin the pass and just by that motion, based on how the defender reacts, either make the pass or pull it back. Gio seems to give up on his guys too early. I think he just misses a lot of those subtleties defenders can give away and the runs our guys make partly because he keeps his head down too much when he's on the ball.

    Ha, just looked it up and Gio's lowest offensive rated aspect on Fifa '17 is his "passing vision"... although, I think 70 is too high.
     
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  8. ragbone

    ragbone Member+

    Sep 2, 2005
    Santo Tomas, Batangas, Philippines.
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What's so infuriating is that if GDS does make that pass and then peels off toward goal, RA has him available for what could well be a lethal scoring opportunity.
     
  9. LEM-LAG

    LEM-LAG Member+

    May 28, 2011
    Club:
    Olympique Lyonnais
    That said, in a certain way Gio created the first goal with his pressing :

     
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  10. The Cadaver

    The Cadaver It's very quiet here.

    Oct 24, 2000
    La Cañada, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'll take it. It will be here after the SD Chargecards move to inglewood.
     
  11. 73Bruin

    73Bruin Member+

    Jul 12, 2008
    Torrance, California
    Can players be traded between leagues? If so I trade Gio for Landon. My rational is 20 minutes of Landon plus 70 of virtually anyone on the roster is likely to produce more than Gio. Ibra would be icing on that exchange.
     
  12. Berks

    Berks Member+

    Dec 22, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Thank you everyone for the summaries since I keep missing these pre-season games!
     
  13. skydog

    skydog Member+

    Aug 1, 1999
    Durham, NC
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    You can still watch them. Here is the NYCFC game:
     
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  14. StillKickin

    StillKickin Member+

    Austin FC
    Dec 17, 2002
    Texas
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm sorry, just now seeing this. It was on ESPN Deportes
     
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  15. StillKickin

    StillKickin Member+

    Austin FC
    Dec 17, 2002
    Texas
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    .Had a long post about the game and somehow managed to erase it before I hit post. Figures - I'm in preseason form.

    Anyway...looks like we could be a contender this year and fun to watch. Makes me happy (although Gio is STILL a disappointment to me; some bias I'm sure - I can think of someone else I'd rather see wearing No. 10 for the Galaxy) - but Gio just hasn't come close to being a difference maker for us.
     
  16. TrickHog

    TrickHog Moderator
    Staff Member

    Oct 14, 2002
    Los Angeles, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Thanks for the recaps and analysis everyone. I missed the game because I was busy shooting all weekend on a green screen. Which means I apparently accomplished more this weekend than Gio....

    From the early reports, it really seems like picking up Kitchen could be the move that pays off the most this coming season.....
     
  17. Dr.Phil

    Dr.Phil Member+

    Jan 18, 2004
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    Tally of how Kamara found his goals in Columbus. Fox in the box
     
  18. The Cadaver

    The Cadaver It's very quiet here.

    Oct 24, 2000
    La Cañada, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Turns out that I will be out of town and not able to use my Vancouver ticket. If you want it, PM me with an e-mail address. No charge, but if you really feel you ought to pay something, make a contribution to the local food bank and we'll call it even.
     
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  19. GalaxyOne

    GalaxyOne Member+

    Dec 6, 2005
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Agree Garcia wasn't nearly our only, or even biggest problem last year, but having to play him so much was sort of indicative of the futility of the season. By my book, he surpassed Leonardo in his heyday, as culprit of lost points. At any rate, glad we have moved on.
     
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  20. TruffleShuffle

    Dec 7, 2011
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    do season ticket holders get tickets for the Sat game vs the smurfs @ OC great park?
     
  21. mbar

    mbar Member+

    Apr 30, 1999
    Los Angeles, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So I found out that you don't get it automatically but if you contact your rep with a "where are my tickets to the event?" they will add you to the RSVP list and email you a PDF ticket.

    Their communication about this particular game has not been the best. I'm sad I will be out of town but I got my tickets to an OC buddy that will use them.
     
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  22. The Cadaver

    The Cadaver It's very quiet here.

    Oct 24, 2000
    La Cañada, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    My ticket to the Vancouver game has been transferred to an LAG fan. Assuming I figured out how to use the Flashseats app.
     
  23. Baysider

    Baysider Member+

    Jul 16, 2004
    Santa Monica
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Thursday there is a game too, right?

    Looked it up myself. Fresno. Maybe the second team plays this one and the first team gets the run-out on Saturday.
     
  24. LEM-LAG

    LEM-LAG Member+

    May 28, 2011
    Club:
    Olympique Lyonnais
    Updated schedule :

    - February, 3rd : LA Galaxy 1-3 Salt Lake (Ciani)
    - February, 10th : LA Galaxy 3-0 NYCFC (Kamara, Hilliard-Arce, Husidic)
    - February 15th : Fresno FC - LA Galaxy (Harder Stadium, Santa Barbara)
    - February, 17th : LA Galaxy - San Jose Earthquakes (Orange County Great Park, Irvine)
    - February, 24th : LA Galaxy - Whitecaps Vancouver (StubHub Center)

    I don't think the game agaisnt Fresno will be streamed, I didn't see anything in that sense.

    Baysider could be right on the Thursday game featuring bench players. The Galaxy website told yesterday that Ulysses Llanez is expected to travel to Santa Barbara.
     
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  25. Galaxy Steve

    Galaxy Steve Member

    Jun 15, 2007
    PASADENA AREA
    I still have tickets available for Galaxy supporters only!
     
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