Glass Dragons Still Breathe Fire - The Gareth Bale Thread

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  1. Raul_Madrid

    Raul_Madrid Member+

    Feb 16, 2010
    Vancouver
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    I was going to share the exact same "fact" .. but decided against it, dude , haters going to hate, doesnt matter!
    Maybe I am wrong, all teams have similar injury records and just because I follow Real more than any other team, it feels too much , but i feel season after season, we have the most number injuries compared to any other team.
     
  2. Arcticmandaly

    Arcticmandaly Member+

    Oct 6, 2015
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    Yeah sure ignore my statement about what one of hes old managers fecking said about him being injury prone, i clearly made that up aswell didnt i ? "haterzz" deerrp ...get the f**k out of here with that shit.Bale is to blame for hes injurys aswell
     
  3. Zidane05

    Zidane05 Moderator
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    Jul 18, 2005
    Toronto
    Ok, I'm going to ignore all the numbers that say that for 5 years straight, he played significant portions of the season, and just take a quote you posted from a previous manager as the be all. All you do here is post the same old shit over and over and over again. Take this broken record elsewhere, you're getting a timeout from this and the Benzema thread.
     
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  4. 4x4s

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    Nov 26, 2006
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    I remember Harry Redknapp saying that he can't write or read so it would be impossible for him to do his taxes.
     
  5. ABB94

    ABB94 Member+

    Feb 18, 2015
    England, UK
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    Why should the club keep a player on such astronomical wages just to play "the most important games." That's far too kind and frankly unfair on the rest of the squad. They bust their gut over the course of season on less pay while Gareth can relax on the injury bed and play a handful of games per season? That would be such a waste of resources when you consider other stars that can be acquired and that wage given to who won't miss 60% of the season. How good he is when fit and on form is irrelevant if he can't sustain that for more than a couple of games a year
     
  6. ABB94

    ABB94 Member+

    Feb 18, 2015
    England, UK
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    Bale definitely had similar niggling injury problems earlier in his career particularly when he first left Southampton for Spurs. They affected him so much that Spurs were about to give up on him and labelled him a flop:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...ngham-boss-Alex-McLeish-eyes-3m-defender.html

    What really saved him was his return to form and meteroic rise in the 10/11 season.

    The 10/11; 11/12 & 12/13 seasons were the most consistent periods of football in his career appearance-wise and even during those seasons he had injuries of different kinds and didn't play week in week out like the numbers seem to suggest. Don't think he ever played every week in any season in his career.

    His first season at Madrid; though he played a fair amount in the end; he still had those niggling thigh injuries particularly at the beginning. His second season (14/15) he got a lot of appearances overall but if people remember he had same niggling calf and thigh injuries at various points that would keep him out for 2 weeks at a time. There's always been question marks about his durability as he was never an Isco or Ronaldo in terms of availability.
     
  7. Zidane05

    Zidane05 Moderator
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    Jul 18, 2005
    Toronto
    Listen, you can try to spin it any way you want to suit whatever agenda you have, but the numbers don't lie: 40+ games and 2500+ minutes for 5 seasons.
     
  8. ABB94

    ABB94 Member+

    Feb 18, 2015
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    I wasn't trying to spin anything. My point was that there has always been questions about his durability dating all the way back to his time at Spurs. It's not something that has emerged in the past few seasons.

    https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/gareth-bale/verletzungen/spieler/39381
     
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  9. Hendrix22

    Hendrix22 Member+

    Feb 28, 2010
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    Are people in this thread actually arguing that Gareth Bale isn't an injury prone player? :eek:
     
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  10. Figo_7

    Figo_7 Member

    Feb 7, 2007
    I think they're trying to argue that in those 5 seasons, Bale was doing something behind the scenes to keep himself able to play regularly and something changed. This is just speculation but maybe he put a lot more effort into staying healthy during those 5 seasons and recently he's been slacking off on top of trying to rush back.

    Remember, Ronaldo apparently does his own recovery routines when he gets back home which probably has a huge part in his own durability.
     
  11. Zidane05

    Zidane05 Moderator
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    Jul 18, 2005
    Toronto
    And your point is not valid because he was very durable in those five seasons before he somehow started breaking down in his third season here.
     
  12. ABB94

    ABB94 Member+

    Feb 18, 2015
    England, UK
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    Saying he was very durable is simply untrue. He has managed to pick up over 25 injuries since he's been at the club so unless those 25 injuries somehow magically happened in the last 2 years then there HAVE been question marks about his durability. Ask yourself, has Bale managed to go an entire season at the club without having a single injury concern (non-impact related) that hasn't ruled him out for a period of games? Also, the same questions should be asked about his time at Spurs. In his final season there, he had 3 semi-serious injuries each keeping him out for a minimum of 2-3 weeks.
     
  13. S1na

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  14. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
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    Nov 26, 2006
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    The pure joy that most media outlets and fans get from this one is really weird. For what it's worth, the guy never bit, kicked anybody in the face or harmed anybody. Some random scum hurts his toe and everybody starts putting up candles and tshirts in support, while the guy hurts himself and the sports press and fans can't get over themselves in joy with "funny" commentary and remarks.
     
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  15. Zidane05

    Zidane05 Moderator
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    Jul 18, 2005
    Toronto
    What kind of logic is this? The injuries that happened the past two years happened the past two years. I'm not going to go back 7 years to justify those injuries.
    His final season there, he played the most number of games and minutes in his career.
     
  16. rhexis07

    rhexis07 Member+

    Jan 24, 2007
    Singapore
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    Who would pay 85M for a player that can't even play 1/2 the season
     
  17. Raul_Madrid

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    Feb 16, 2010
    Vancouver
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    couldn't say it better, some enjoy to see him injured, some enjoy to see him perform bad, i dont get it, is he playing for Barca? is he playing for PSG ? until the day he is wearing Madrid Jersey, I wish him speedy recovery and the best on the pitch !
     
  18. Digital

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    Dec 10, 2012
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    Maybe, on the other side though maybe some doth protest too much for the multimillionaire that is Gareth, and before we get to the “he’s won 3Cl’s and a league title since he’s been with us ,all I can say is yes, IMO he’s been fortunate to be part of a team that’s won numerous trophies, that’s all I have to say about that,

    He cost a lot of money , is supposedly a superstar , is paid tons, and recently is always injured, sooo what should people do or say?, nothing?, sing his praises?, because he’s a “good guy?”, especially considering how the team is struggling?,for sure many won’t see it that way, he’s part of the team and apparently an undroppable player when fit, there is nothing surprising to me about some responses to his latest setback
     
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  19. Excape Goat

    Excape Goat Member+

    Mar 18, 1999
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    This is the post that I finally give up on Bale. He can now score 5 goals in the CL Final against Barcelona. I still want the open top bus to drive him directly from Plaza de Cibeles to the airport.


    PS: I do not hate him.
     
  20. ABB94

    ABB94 Member+

    Feb 18, 2015
    England, UK
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    I'm pretty lost on what your overall point is so I'll just leave this.
     

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  21. Eddie

    Eddie Member+

    Oct 19, 2005
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    Maybe they doubt our medical team. Robben's health improved, although not much, when he left for Bayern. I also remember Raul praising Schalke's medical team. We did fire that Olmo guy who was in charge of our medical department since 2013, but it was this summer.

    If they can somehow keep him healthy for 2/3 of the season, he's easily worth the 85M in today's market.
     
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  22. Zidane05

    Zidane05 Moderator
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    Jul 18, 2005
    Toronto
    I think you're just pretty lost overall here. Missing 2 weeks or 3 weeks in a season is not a "serious" injury. Everyone misses that much time due to a niggle here and there during the course of the season. You're trying to push the agenda that he's been always this injured, but the numbers just don't support what you're saying.
     
  23. Phenom9

    Phenom9 Member

    Jun 9, 2016
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    Yes, its hilarious to read though....the guy is a 100 million euro joke.
     
  24. RM or None

    RM or None Member

    Sep 2, 2016
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    Real Madrid
    Bale is not Madrid's biggest problem at this moment and that's because he is not a key player or never been , but being on the fair side I can't recall any players in the white jersey given this much opportunity and still flops. this is what me as a fan have problem with , we all know in an standard situation he would not see the pitch more than 4 times a year. he had every coaches + Florentino's protection from day 1. one must be foolish to ignore this fact
     

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