Most UNpopular national teams (top 5)

Discussion in 'UEFA and Europe' started by Colm, Oct 19, 2004.

  1. thespinydogfish

    thespinydogfish New Member

    Jun 3, 2003
    1-step ahead of you
    Spot on, cowboy. How can anyone actually HATE the US Nats? You may not think they play well, etc., but you can't actually find anything "distinctive" there to hate. Now if we won the WC . . .
     
  2. scottycap

    scottycap New Member

    Dec 10, 2003
    Oklahoma City, OK

    I don't think anyone CAN Actually hate the US Nats. During the last US vs. Poland game there were quite a large amount of foreigners that were there pulling for the US...these were people that were not from the U.S. and were visiting here or students here. Also, U.S. verse Mexico in Dallas...there were probably more hispanic fans of the U.S. there than americans. Dunno?
     
  3. becks1113

    becks1113 New Member

    Sep 28, 2004
    United States
    This is for you US haters... Don't mis-judge us just because soocer/football is not our number one sport. Yeah our fans are few and far between, but when you come across a true fan of the sport we actually know what we are talking about.

    as far as our USMNT is concerned. yeah in the past we have been the easy team to play, but the future is looking bright for us. The world is starting to come across our first and second generation of kids that grew up playing soccer. Ask mexico... our overall record against them is very dismal, but over the last 10 years we have owned them.

    I do recall friendlies that have been played here in the states against respectable national teams and we have won. beat Germany 3-0 back in 99.

    You Europeans are starting to see our players pop up everywhere. Not to mention that we probly have the best goalkeeping trio in the world. Not trying to say they are the best, but no other national team has this many quality stoppers. Two of which won the best keeper in the EPL the last 2 years running.

    Beasly, just got to holland and has already made an impact.

    Hey, the USMNT is coming around. I would gladly put us up against any european team here at home when the weather starts to warm up.

    I know what we are a capable of and I have faith in my team.
     
  4. mritalian1210

    mritalian1210 Member

    Jun 10, 2004
    Northern Jersey
    Club:
    AC Milan
  5. lewetagww

    lewetagww New Member

    Nov 16, 2004
    Pittsburgh
    The reason the rest of the World hates american soccer is because it is the only sport left maybe hockey that we do not dominate. However in time it will occur
     
  6. becks1113

    becks1113 New Member

    Sep 28, 2004
    United States
     
  7. Simosa

    Simosa New Member

    Aug 13, 2004
    London
    I think the main reason is this assumption that you are going to dominate the game in the near future.

    If you said that in a couple of years you might have a team to compete with the leading nations on a consistent basis people probably wouldn't have a problem.
     
  8. Forza Badger

    Forza Badger New Member

    Aug 29, 2004
    i'm
    Bullsh1t!! Italy and Germany both have more than 3 keepers available who are just as good if not better.

    Italy:
    Buffon (Arguably best in the world)
    Pellizoli (Very good)
    Toldo
    Roma

    Germany:
    Kahn
    Lehman
    Hildebrand
    A German fan could probably name others...


    Not to mention all the US fans are always whining "Everyone hates the US", "watch out for us", "blah blah blah blah blah". I think if US NT posters would stop gloating how Landon Donovan is the best striker in the world (utter nonsense) and other such crap, no one would have anything against them. The US does not dominate international football and for those of you who think that will change in the next 4-6 years, are completely ignorant. The US is getting better but there is still a lot of work to be done.
     
  9. Doc_Aeppler

    Doc_Aeppler Member

    May 27, 2003
    Frankfurt
     
  10. Tmagic77

    Tmagic77 Member+

    Feb 10, 2003
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Most American fans don't think Donovan is anywhere close to the best striker in the world. In fact I have never heard that claim. Also most American fans believe that we could to have a shot in 2010. Considering we were perhaps a call and Korea away from the final in the last WC, that's not too much of a strech. To be considered a top team, and not just have an outside shot at winning, it'll probably be more like 30 years.
     
  11. mls_in_canada

    mls_in_canada New Member

    Feb 29, 2004
    Waterloo, ON, Canada
    I would agree that many people in the rest of the world hates the U.S., not U.S. soccer. I would think the most hated teams in the world are the most difficult to play, for which the U.S. is not quite there yet. Most unpopular teams depend on who is playing/rivalries, etc. For example, I hate Brazil because they always win, however I still respect them greatly. I can say the same for France.
     
  12. Forza Badger

    Forza Badger New Member

    Aug 29, 2004
    i'm
    I was a little annoyed by the ignorance of the other poster and made a broad generalization. Not all US NT fans are characterized by what I said, but too many are. It is the few who are complete lunkheads (look at some posts in Beautiful Game/World Rivalries) who give the rest a bad name.

    The US team is only getting better. I think the stronger the MLS becomes, the stronger the national team that is produced. If the US could repeat it's 2002 success that would be a big achievement. The team doesn't have to win the world cup to become respected, and in time I think the US NT will be a superpower. I don't know how long that will take.
     
  13. becks1113

    becks1113 New Member

    Sep 28, 2004
    United States
    Hold your horses there forza... first let me respond to all the stuff about landon.... Look at my original post..... I never said anything about landon being the best in the world. I don't think he is anywhere near that. Nor do I think that I our men's team dominates International football, but what I do know is that when we do take the field, teams are begining to respect us. We aren't just a cake walk anymore..... I know that we are able to produce a quality result over some good teams.

    now back to the keeper thing. yes Germanay and Italy are known for producing great keepers. Kahn and lehman I will give to you, but Hildebrand..... He doesn't even stand a chance of starting in 2006. If kahn and Lehman are hurt would germany put as much confidence in their third string keeper? I dont' think that they would. :confused:

    I know for a fact the if Keller, Freidel, or Howard were to get hurt. The other two guys could step up and the USNT wouldn't skip a beat. All three can start on any given day. This IMO gives the US the edge in "Keeping". You don't typically see that with other national teams. How, long has it taken lehman to get some consisten playing time with the national team?

    And for Italy.. Buffon... I am not arguing there you are right, one of the world's best. But after that I still think that it's a toss up, and I don't know if the Italian team would still have the same level of confidence as they would have with buffon between the sticks. Once again, I don't think that they would.
     
  14. becks1113

    becks1113 New Member

    Sep 28, 2004
    United States
     
  15. arthur d

    arthur d Member

    Oct 17, 2004
    Cambridge England
    Nah. You're clinging onto a straw there mate, shagging ants as they say in Dutch. Hildebrand is the best of the three Germans anyway, and Italy have even better keepers than Germany, and any other country in the world. Then there are some countries with outstanding individual keepers, llike Spain, Finland, Holland, to name a few. I'd always take one van der Sar over 3 American keepers.
     
  16. Forza Badger

    Forza Badger New Member

    Aug 29, 2004
    i'm
    I addressed this with my last post. I generally retract my Landon comment and clarify my sentiment there.

    You could position this same question for any squad including the US. Any player is going to put their faith in their 1st line keeper over anyone else, even if the 3rd line happens to be just as good.

    If Buffon was injured it would be a blow, especially given his skill compared to the next in line (Pellizoli is very good but not a Buffon yet). The team wouldn't say "OH ********, BUFFON's OUT, PACK YOUR BAGS BACK TO ITALY.". The team would deal with it, and as a fan I would hope the defense keeps strong.

    I've already addressed this.

    They still have an excellent line of keepers!? Kahn while not as good as form as he used to is still world class. Buffon is arguably the best in the world. Pelizolli and Lehman are both on significant squads. There is still good goalkeepers from these countries. Also, Lehman is not a bad keeper.

    Last time I checked Howard is on the bench, hardly in form to lead a NT. Friedel retired from the NT, or am I wrong? Keller is good but it's questionable to say he would even make a top 10.
     
  17. becks1113

    becks1113 New Member

    Sep 28, 2004
    United States
    I guess my point is that we don't have a definite number 1 keeper. All 3 of our guys rotate so often that the team chemistry or confeidence wouldn't be questionable.




    I wasn't trying to call lehman a bad keeper. i was being sarcastic. My second post was in regards to what another poster had said about lehman, being all oh mighty, but yet the EPL didn't have good keepers.



    Howard is on the bench, but that is because ManU is forever tyring to replace Schmichael. if kahn, or lehman were playing for manU and committed some of the error's that I have seen in in the Champions league. .... Fergie would axe their asses to.
     
  18. PileD

    PileD New Member

    Nov 19, 2003
    Ruhrgebiet
    Yes, Rost and so on....
     
  19. PileD

    PileD New Member

    Nov 19, 2003
    Ruhrgebiet
    In Holland you've cheese in the brain.

    That's all.
     
  20. PileD

    PileD New Member

    Nov 19, 2003
    Ruhrgebiet
    And when all hell freezed over, we win.

    What and who is Turkey????
    Germany win ever.
     
  21. PileD

    PileD New Member

    Nov 19, 2003
    Ruhrgebiet
    1. San Marino
    2. Liechtenstein
    3. Andorra
    4. Luxemburg (Luetzelburg)
    5. Turkey, Holland or such other not important Nations
     
  22. johan neeskens

    Jan 14, 2004
    Oh is that why Germany haven't managed to beat us in yonks.
     
  23. balla

    balla Member

    Sep 16, 2004
    Melbourne,Australia
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    lol this is a forum about which team u hate the most not which is unpopular lol
     
  24. BridgeMonkee

    BridgeMonkee BigSoccer Supporter

    Jul 25, 2002
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Spain the most hated country on earth about now. "(Fifa) will demand explanations from the Spanish football association." I am fuming about the racism of the fans and coach. This really is out of control, how a coach can use the word N!GGER and still have a job is completely beyond me.
     
  25. Mobile

    Mobile New Member

    Jul 29, 2002
    Melbourne
    I've heard this argument from US fans before and it seems to ignore certain basic realities.

    1. It was probably a penalty but was by no means 100% clear-cut. Debateable at best.

    2. Even if the penalty had been awarded, you may not have scored it. There's huge pressure in a WC quarter-final, something none of the US players would have experienced before. And Kahn was on fire in that tournament - he may have saved it.

    3. Even if you had scored it, the score would have been 1-1. The Germans may well have scored again, or the game could have gone to a penalty shoot-out (in which case the Germans automatically win ;) ).

    So it is stretching the truth somewhat to say that the US "were perhaps a call and Korea away from the final". In fact it's almost delusional.

    The next point is that a good performance in one World Cup is absolutely zero guarantee of a good showing the next time round. Or do you think Korea & Turkey will be challenging in 2006? How did Sweden get on in 1998 after making the semis in 1994? How did Croatia do in 2002 after making the semis in 1998? Do you see how incredibly annoying it can be to see some US fan blithely predicting a successful tournament for the US in 2006 based on notions which are subject to a huge number of variables?
     

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