Arena: "Nothing has to change"

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by Ghost, Oct 11, 2017.

  1. Shaster

    Shaster Member+

    Apr 13, 1999
    El Cerrito, CA, USA
    Arena was always arrogant, you guys should know that by 2006.
    He remains me Madam Clinton who declares victory before battle starts. But at least she hides in the woods after all shits blowed up.
     
  2. Chesco United

    Chesco United Member+

    DC United
    Jun 24, 2001
    Chester County, PA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    I do not know why Arena did not put Wondo in the Trinidad game when we needed a goal.
     
  3. MarioKempes

    MarioKempes Member+

    Real Madrid, DC United, anywhere Pulisic plays
    Aug 3, 2000
    Proxima Centauri
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    [​IMG]

    Thie image above is correct, except for Cameron (Omar Gonzalez),. Arriola was on the right side of the diamond. This was the wrong formation. I would have played a 4-5-1, wtih Dax, Bradley, and Bedoya, as D-Mids, and Feilhaber and Pulisic as A-Mids, and Wood up top. Beasley, Besler, Cameron, Yedlin in defense, and Guzan in goal.
     
  4. Chesco United

    Chesco United Member+

    DC United
    Jun 24, 2001
    Chester County, PA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Why does Sunil still have a job?
     
  5. Cannons

    Cannons Member+

    May 16, 2005
    Maybe he has to fire Arena first? Im not sure Sunil can just be fired. He was elected by a committee and as such, no one person can just fire him. However he is up for reelection in Feb and I can't see that happening based on this crash, the horrible matches that lead up to this crash, Missing 2 Olympics for the men, women failing in Olympics, his defending JK too long, his picking Arena (mistake) Sunil has not taken the program forward at all and he needs to go... but Arena needs to go first
     
    jnielsen repped this.
  6. Paul. A

    Paul. A Member

    Mar 16, 1999
    Wales, UK
    Bruce Arena is NOT what he was - it is a mystery! Some players should have retired long ago.
     
  7. KicksNgiggles

    KicksNgiggles Member

    Aug 18, 2016
    BHM
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Nothing has to change...? Odd that Bruce said this then:

    “This is a roster that needed multiple changes, had we qualified for the World Cup,” Arena said.

    Seems like a pretty big effing change to me!
     
    Namdynamo, TOAzer and juveeer repped this.
  8. UxSxAxfooty

    UxSxAxfooty Member+

    Jan 23, 2003
    Rochester, NY
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This comment is so mind-numbingly upsetting.
     
    Deep Wilcox and KicksNgiggles repped this.
  9. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    He also had the Hillary Clinton style of taking responsibility but actually blaming everyone else.
     
    juveeer repped this.
  10. Shaster

    Shaster Member+

    Apr 13, 1999
    El Cerrito, CA, USA
    Arena basically knew this team is shit. Everyone knew it. Look on Gold Cup and two games in Sept. But Arena thought his shit team can still get by the qualification to give him room to change.

    Big stupid arrogant assumption. If he just play the hunger guys--anyone in a starting 11 on any MLS team probably can tie against this young reserve T&T team.
     
  11. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    Talent-wise, the US were easily better than 2 of the Hex's top four.
     
    monere repped this.
  12. smokarz

    smokarz Member+

    Aug 9, 2006
    Hartford, CT

    Basically, blame everyone else but him.

    Translation:

    Nothing has to change = "I did nothing wrong. No need to look at me. I am a fine coach"

    This roster needs multiple changes = "This wasn't my roster. I was handed these guys by the previous regime. These are not my guys. Again, I did nothing wrong, I am a fine coach"
     
  13. Shaster

    Shaster Member+

    Apr 13, 1999
    El Cerrito, CA, USA
    Indeed a mistake to give job to Arena. If you have to get one American with experience, Bob Bradley is better than Arena.
     
  14. laxcoach

    laxcoach Member+

    United States
    Jul 29, 2017
    intermountain west
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If he's like the clinton, the blame game should start soon. Real soon. And a whiny self serving book to follow.
     
    jaxonmills repped this.
  15. Ironbound

    Ironbound Member+

    Jul 1, 2009
    Agreed, but the need arose during his blink-and-you-missed-it tenure at Swansea City.
     
  16. cleansheetbsc

    cleansheetbsc Member+

    Mar 17, 2004
    Club:
    --other--
    Not really. There were a number of players that played in qualification in 2001, 2005, 2009 and 2013 that didn't play a part in the WC's of 2002, 2006, 2010 and 2014, injuries aside.
     
    wsmaugham repped this.
  17. Shaster

    Shaster Member+

    Apr 13, 1999
    El Cerrito, CA, USA
    At least Bob Bradley managed Euro clubs, and he doesn't HATE those German Americans.
     
    Deep Wilcox repped this.
  18. UxSxAxfooty

    UxSxAxfooty Member+

    Jan 23, 2003
    Rochester, NY
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm aware, but I really don't see the relevance.
     
  19. StormTrooper

    StormTrooper Member

    Jun 18, 2002
    ATX
    #94 StormTrooper, Oct 12, 2017
    Last edited: Oct 12, 2017
    Guys we were two inches away from qualifying! Forget all the other matches and plays - two inches. You can't make big changes when we are on such a roll like this.

    We saw Herculean effort by the players and a tactical masterpiece by the coach. Playing against a veteran and determined squad that just narrowly missed qualifying but still with so much to play for, in front of a hostile and overflowing crowd, we almost pulled it out, against all odds.

    We would be CRAZY to make any changes with all this momentum and success.

    Stay the course! You'll see in a half decade or more!
     
    monere, Namdynamo, Deep Wilcox and 4 others repped this.
  20. cleansheetbsc

    cleansheetbsc Member+

    Mar 17, 2004
    Club:
    --other--
    Your qualifying group is usually different from your WC group.
     
  21. UxSxAxfooty

    UxSxAxfooty Member+

    Jan 23, 2003
    Rochester, NY
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Of course, but nobody plays their last qualifying match and then tells the media that "multiple" changes are "needed." Don't ignore the context of the remark. This is 100% Arena shifting blame either from his job selecting the squad or to this group of players.
     
    Namdynamo, jnielsen and juveeer repped this.
  22. cleansheetbsc

    cleansheetbsc Member+

    Mar 17, 2004
    Club:
    --other--
    no its not. stop letting emotion rule over rational thought. As has been said in multiple threads, there is no excuse for just about any selection of 23 professional American players to not be able to get one point at T&T when it was needed let alone 12 total points over 10 games.

    its mainly on the players on the field, but yes, the manager's tactics and even roster selection does play a role in it. perhaps it is my American arrogance, but I expect any reasonable roster selection to be successful in qualifying. But a re-examine should be expected next spring when a WC roster is being developed to play against (likely) two European teams and one other team. Different beast at that point.
     
    John McGuirk repped this.
  23. StormTrooper

    StormTrooper Member

    Jun 18, 2002
    ATX
    Guys, this is just a blemish - a minor one at that - on a great record and qualifying campaign. We can't focus on the final result but step back and enjoy the journey:

    Sunil for wisely extending Jurgens contract and going a second run with him - this has worked so often in the past. Who could have predicted it wouldn't work a second time round. Also great credit being bold selecting Arena, someone willing to change with the times and not beholden to certain players. And credit job on the site selection, giving some of our foreign fans and competitors a fair shake. A great sportsman.

    Bruce for picking the diamonds in the rough and sticking with the players we knew could get it done. The WC may be a young mans game, but qualifying is for the old, slow but wily veteran players.

    And finally the player effort shown by the likes of Altidore and Bradley. You could feel the pride and urgency they felt. Humble as always, they went down but trying oh so hard and against all odds almost managed a draw against the previously winless TT squad.

    Look, this is just a blemish. Everyone settle down and stay the course. Just wait until 2022. It will be here before you know it.
     
    monere, Namdynamo, John McGuirk and 4 others repped this.
  24. UxSxAxfooty

    UxSxAxfooty Member+

    Jan 23, 2003
    Rochester, NY
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I've never disputed that any American roster should have been successful or that rosters change between qualifying and World Cups, so I really don't understand what you're driving at.
     
  25. comoesa

    comoesa Member+

    Aug 13, 2010
    Christen Press's armpit
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It is your arrogance. CONCACAF is not a region where you can just throw a lineup out there without thought and expect to win against the weaker team. The opposing coaching has gotten too good for that.
     
    Namdynamo, jnielsen and juveeer repped this.

Share This Page