PBP: USA at Trinidad and Tobago, Match Day, Final World Cup Hex Qualifier

Discussion in 'USA Men' started by deuteronomy, Oct 10, 2017.

  1. icybauer

    icybauer Member+

    Aug 8, 2011
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    K

    Y Howard
     
  2. nfocus

    nfocus Member

    May 24, 2010
    las vegas
    Club:
    --other--

    Sorry man we see things differently. Yes the U.S. will to win back in 2014 helped Mexico, had we not qualified I think we would have been in better position than where we currently are at. FEMEXFUT would have a ********ing field day had we failed to qualify, heads would roll. We would have regrouped and played like crazy this cycle around.

    We tried to the last minute, we didn't bunker nor pass the ball around. We pressured HON when they tried to pass the ball around.

    Ochoa had a bad game the own goal was a fluke, the crossbar ********ed it up. I personally wanted to win the game.

    I hope you guys rebuild and come out with a different game plan next cycle.
     
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  3. Hexa

    Hexa Member+

    May 21, 2010
    Club:
    Vasco da Gama Rio Janeiro
    Too soon... These types of coments by us fans bothered me too but one must respect this dark day for US Soccer. We can discuss this idea another day
     
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  4. bct81

    bct81 Member+

    multiple (DC United, Dortmund, Arsenal, Leeds....)
    United States
    Mar 17, 2007
    moving around the US every few years ....
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You could have seen this coming years ago when Bradley Jr. came back from AS Roma to be a DP in Toronto ... instead of challenging himself in Serie A he came home to make his new wife happy ... sorry but you are either committed to be the best player you can be or are not. We either want the best players or we don't .... The whole coaching staff plus Sunil and company need to go .... time for a complete clean sheet review of the whole enchilada.
     
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  5. Marko72

    Marko72 Member+

    Aug 30, 2005
    New York
    I don't know, I must've gotten hit on n the back of the head by a ball...
     
  6. manfromgallifrey91

    Swansea City
    United States
    Jul 24, 2015
    Wyoming, USA
    Club:
    Southampton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You're kind of thinking leads us to think this is normal, and it's not. Cameron, Brooks, and maybe even Besler are better CBs than most in Concacaf. Yedlin is a quality right back and I'd take him over most.

    Bradley is overrated, Tim Howard and Dempsey are passed it, but Howard and Dempsey are still top 5 in concacaf at their positions, taking Dempsey as a sub role.

    Pulisic is better than most players 1 for 1 in Concacaf. Fabian Johnson is about as good a left back that was at the world cup, not seen him at that position since, but Id still say top 3 in CONCACAF. Altidore and Wood are top 5, top 10 in cONCACAF. And factor in the youth players and others it's easy to see the USA as no worse than 3rd best at most positions. Just other teams fought harder and wanted it more.

    Talent is way down on the list of things that is the reason.
     
  7. nyqs81

    nyqs81 Member

    Mar 23, 2008
    Club:
    Rangers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Pretty much agree with everything Twellman said.
     
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  8. spejic

    spejic Cautionary example

    Mar 1, 1999
    San Rafael, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    That's ridiculous. MLS should exist for itself - as a business, not a vanity project. If American players were worth $300,000, they would be playing somewhere where they would be paid $300,000.
     
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  9. Marko72

    Marko72 Member+

    Aug 30, 2005
    New York
    Hmm, sounds like you guys have the BSMX sewing circle going...
     
  10. Fiosfan

    Fiosfan Red Card

    Mar 21, 2010
    Nevada
    Club:
    New York City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I feel like I got molested by Harvey Weinstein tonight.
     
  11. bct81

    bct81 Member+

    multiple (DC United, Dortmund, Arsenal, Leeds....)
    United States
    Mar 17, 2007
    moving around the US every few years ....
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    you don't understand Bruce .. he has his good points - relating to his players - but flat out accepting the full responsibility - and then resigning - is not his forte.
     
  12. Fiosfan

    Fiosfan Red Card

    Mar 21, 2010
    Nevada
    Club:
    New York City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What you saying that him & his buddy Sunil be around another 4yrs.
     
  13. manfromgallifrey91

    Swansea City
    United States
    Jul 24, 2015
    Wyoming, USA
    Club:
    Southampton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Iceland. They play lovely soccer. England because of my Wife. Italy if they make it for my Great Grandad. Then of course Ireland because their fans are awesome.
     
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  14. DeargGerilo

    DeargGerilo Member

    Mar 16, 2017
    I know this is the billionth most important issue at the moment but: does Dempsey stay tied with Donovan on goals scored until someone passes them both? Not sure he'd play even at the beginning of this transition to a new cycle. Maybe he gets a send-off game where they try to get him a goal?
     
  15. Bluegoose951

    Bluegoose951 Member

    Jan 10, 2017
    You can list players and say that they are good all night but the truth is that they are worth nothing on the open transfer market.

    Except for Pulisic, the rest are not that good. Obviously. This team just failed to qualify to the World Cup. US fans are terrible evaluators of talent.
     
  16. Marko72

    Marko72 Member+

    Aug 30, 2005
    New York
    Hey Mex, pretty please with a cherry on top try pretend for a moment to have a modicum of class and GTFO back to your own forum. If I came into your forum like this I'd be banned and you know it.
     
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  17. Fiosfan

    Fiosfan Red Card

    Mar 21, 2010
    Nevada
    Club:
    New York City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    [​IMG]
     
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  18. nyqs81

    nyqs81 Member

    Mar 23, 2008
    Club:
    Rangers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yup. Biggest double standard on this site.
     
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  19. bct81

    bct81 Member+

    multiple (DC United, Dortmund, Arsenal, Leeds....)
    United States
    Mar 17, 2007
    moving around the US every few years ....
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    god I hope not ... Bruce will not resign ... but he simply has to be fired ...the issue is how and who will fire Sunil? That is the real question here ....
     
  20. bct81

    bct81 Member+

    multiple (DC United, Dortmund, Arsenal, Leeds....)
    United States
    Mar 17, 2007
    moving around the US every few years ....
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    geez even Weinstein's parent company can fire him ... they could read the writing on the wall .... so who is going to fire Sunil?
     
  21. Mexcellence

    Mexcellence Member+

    Oct 12, 2007
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Fair enough. I shall let you mourn. Condolences.

    Adios.
     
  22. SaltyCatter

    SaltyCatter Member

    Feb 16, 2009
    The West
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    ...still .... processing .../ ....still ... processing .../ ...still ....
     
  23. DeargGerilo

    DeargGerilo Member

    Mar 16, 2017
    One day this shall be an iconic photo when Wonder Boy becomes a Wonder Man and he lifts the Jules Rimet trophy

    [30 for 30 intro] "He started from the very bottom..."
    [​IMG]
     

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  24. iad_22201

    iad_22201 Member+

    Jan 2, 2009
    Washington, DC
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    :rolleyes:
     
  25. Fiosfan

    Fiosfan Red Card

    Mar 21, 2010
    Nevada
    Club:
    New York City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  26. AmericanPigDog

    AmericanPigDog Red Card

    Nope
    United States
    Oct 10, 2017
    Damn, I hadn't even thought of that yet. The two best, hardest working players we've had in a generation and both come to a tragic end.
     
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