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  1. MerlinRM

    MerlinRM Member+

    May 5, 2014
    NorthEast USA
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Busquets earlier today. Last part reads like a shot at Pique...

    Q: Would it be better to leave politics out of the NT and out of the locker room?
    A: Personally, it's what I do. I'm here as a player, at the end of the day we all have our ideas but we come here to play with the National Team and to play as good as we can; and as with my club I just dedicate myself to play football and to speak about football
    Q: Do you think that it would be better if everybody did the same?
    A: Surely yes, but I'm talking about myself, everybody is different.

    Also:

    Q: If you were the manager, would you forbid Twitter? A: Rather than forbidding it, in the end, I think that any public figure, people who have a social impact, should use it with common sense, but some people's common sense is not the same as others so it's a difficult topic.
     
  2. robnycus

    robnycus Member+

    Jun 28, 2010
    Club:
    New York Cosmos
    Now that you have acknowledged that then what are you arguing about?
    Are you saying racism exists but institutional racism does not?
     
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  3. Adder

    Adder Red Card

    Sep 1, 2016
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Two companies in the toilet paper industry are hiring employees. The manager in the first company is a racist, the other is not and hires employees based purely on their competencies. We are in the US, and during each appointment round, each company will hire 10 employees, and the racist manager will only hire white people, while the non-racist will randomly select between black and white applicants.

    After the first round of appointments, the racist company has 10 white employees, and let us say the non-racist company has circa 1 black employee (since blacks make up about 10 % of the US population). So, while black people make up 10 % of the population, they now make up 1/20 = 5 % of this industry.

    Due to growing business in the toilet paper industry, it is time to hire new employees. Again, each company hires 10. The racist boss gets 10 new white people, while the non-racist boss gets 1 new black employee. So, again, while black people make up 10 % of the population, they now make up 2/40 = 1 % of this industry.

    What do you think will happen during the next round of appointments? Same result? Better results? Nope. It'll be worse. Because black people will look at that industry and go "wait a minute, we make up 1/10 of the population but 1/100 of this industy? What's even the point in applying for a job, I won't get it". Hence, as the number of black applicants drop, the industry becomes essentially dominated by white people...

    ... all because 1 boss was a racist, and the other boss refused to acknowledge the positive benefits of identity politics. Well done janos. You've truly got things figured out.


    (PSSSSST: Yes, above example is hopelessly simplified, with many real-life complexities being completely ignored. But the central point should be clear, and is backed up by far more scientific studies, with data, than what I just wrote up here).
     
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  4. S1na

    S1na Member+

    Real Madrid
    Jun 1, 2014
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Iran
    Meanwhile Griezmann s story post

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  5. CivilProtection

    CivilProtection Member+

    Jul 6, 2013
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    I don't want to enter the debate, as I think that "Why aren’t white on white crime rates a thing?" said it all.

    Still you managed the write hundreds of words to present a wrong case (nothing unusual though):
    1/20 = 2/40 = 3/120 = ... = %5

    The percentage remains the same, Mr. Lee.
    Your math is as consistent as your ejaculations.
     
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  6. Saeta Rubia

    Saeta Rubia Member+

    May 28, 2010
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    AC Milan's Chinese owner seeks new investors

    The Chinese owner of former European soccer champions AC Milan is looking for one or more investors to share the financial burden, less than six months after buying the loss-making Italian club, two sources said on Friday.

    The source, who declined to be named because of the sensitivity of the matter, said Li would be more comfortable sharing the financial risk associated with managing and investing in the club, which lost 75 million euros in 2016 and is expected to remain in the red for this year at least.

    https://in.reuters.com/article/us-a...ner-seeks-new-investors-sources-idINKCN1C4180
     
  7. Saeta Rubia

    Saeta Rubia Member+

    May 28, 2010
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
  8. janos audron

    janos audron Member+

    Apr 12, 2010

    It is amazing that still you are unable to provide cases of Institutional Racism in America and as result you offer hyperbole - and even that you cannot do right. You also manage to present % representation as indication of racism which is pure fallacy.

    But what is even more amazing, that you are supposedly taking position against Institutional Racism while you are clearly supporting employment based on identity instead of competence. Which is strange, because the latter is de facto discriminatory. What a fantastic way to fight for equality!

    But in any case, fck NFL, fck Pique and fck politics in sport.
     
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  9. DazerII

    DazerII Member

    May 27, 2011
    3/120 = 5%??? Or this was supposed to be 6/120?
     
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  10. meringues

    meringues Member+

    Real Madrid
    United States
    Aug 8, 2008
    Wisconsin
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    willful blindness is the only way someone could possibly ask this question seriously
     
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  11. Figo_7

    Figo_7 Member

    Feb 7, 2007
    There are some bad police out there but there are also policemen who are good at their jobs and have to deal with shit like this:

    Just because there are racists in the institution doesn't make it institutional racism. Cops look out for each other and that leads to bad cops not getting held accountable in many cases, not just racism cases. The problem is that cops and politicians are pretty much above the law and that needs to change. It's not a case of institutional racism just racism of a minority of individuals that goes unpunished.
     
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  12. Zidane05

    Zidane05 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jul 18, 2005
    Toronto
    Alright folks, time to bring it back to football. Think everyone had their say.
     
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  13. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 26, 2006
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Bayern to present Tuchel in the next few days. Tuchel is apparently somebody Guardiola liked a lot when he came to Germany and also met in private many times.
     
  14. CivilProtection

    CivilProtection Member+

    Jul 6, 2013
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Was a typo, either 3/60 or 6/120, take your pick. The point was that the percentage remains the same and what he said was idiotic as per usual.
     
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  15. robnycus

    robnycus Member+

    Jun 28, 2010
    Club:
    New York Cosmos
    Why did he leave Borussia?
     
  16. janos audron

    janos audron Member+

    Apr 12, 2010
    To bad you dont invest time and effort into producing actual argument supported by evidence, which is the best way to cure "willful blindness" of opponent and with it achieve progress in society. Open Word, go wild and click send into my private box.
     
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  17. Eddie

    Eddie Member+

    Oct 19, 2005
    Club:
    Real Madrid
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    Insane stat.
     
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  18. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 26, 2006
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Personal differences with the bosses, the relationship fell through when the bus was attacked, Tuchel wasn't informed about the decision to play and was steaming mad about it. The story is that Guardiola liked him while he was at Mainz and suggested him to Bayern as his succesor back then.

    I like him as a coach but i think he is very angry all the time.
     
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  19. Zidane05

    Zidane05 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jul 18, 2005
    Toronto
    He's so underrated. To me, he's their best player.
     
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  20. meringues

    meringues Member+

    Real Madrid
    United States
    Aug 8, 2008
    Wisconsin
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    just lol at the idea that i should use my time and energy to educate your willfully ignorant self. millions of pages of elite scholarship have been written on this. read, dude.

    e: gonna heed Z05's demand.
     
  21. meringues

    meringues Member+

    Real Madrid
    United States
    Aug 8, 2008
    Wisconsin
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    T5 keeper without a doubt.
     
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  22. Castillas

    Castillas Member+

    May 4, 2009
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    I don't understand people like Pique. WTF is he doing in the national team if he despises Spain so much? GTFO then. Two-faced scumbag. What a miserable person.

    I know that Barca's presence in La Liga makes it (and us) much stronger, but in the end of the day, if they get their independence, then so be it. GTFO of La Liga and deal with it.

    As to the other topic (sorry @Zidane05), I am fully against racism, but I am also fully against those who play the victim card and get engaged in pseudo-protests. NFL? Most of them do not even have the mental capacity to comprehend what they are protesting against. Not respecting the anthem/flag of your country? What are you doing there then? If you disagree with something, either do something productive or GTFO.

    BLM? Talk about victim mentality. How about calling your organization "All lives matter" or "Life matters", why place "black" in it? You don't fight racism with racism.

    Back to football. So Cesc confirms throwing a slice of pizza into Fergie's face in 2004. What an enlightening piece of news. Crazy world.
     
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  23. MerlinRM

    MerlinRM Member+

    May 5, 2014
    NorthEast USA
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    In South American qualifying news, its do or die for Argentina (and pretty much all other South American teams besides Brazil and maybe Uruguay) for 2018 this week. Peru is bringing their own water to Argentina to avoid any funny business that Argentines have a rep for in these types of situation.
     
  24. janos audron

    janos audron Member+

    Apr 12, 2010
    #1699 janos audron, Oct 4, 2017
    Last edited: Oct 4, 2017
    I would ask you for a few names of that "elite scholarship", but i doubt you would be able to go past The View with Joy Behar or Yvette Felarca. As result without any doubt you would respond with another cop-out worthy of Oscar.

    :thumbsup:
     
  25. Zidane05

    Zidane05 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jul 18, 2005
    Toronto
    Alright back to football please. I'm going to start deleting posts after this. You guys can carry forward in the NSR.
     
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