Maybe the fact that they lost teams last year make it a problem this year Discovery is not instantaneous
So two NPSL clubs have been encouraged to move to PDL by USL teams, 5 have not, 9 did not respond, and that's being used as evidence of a conspiracy.
A waiver of a requirement is a very good indication that the requirement in question was not really necessary in the first place. So taking a waiver away is hard to do only if you are interested in preserving some credibility on the legitimacy of the requirements. (But, of course, if all you are doing by imposing so-called "requirements" is engaging in a power play, then a little contradiction here and there is not going to trouble you.) The fact that the NASL for the past several years has been functioning and has been attracting new owners illustrates the foolishness of the USSF declaring the league to have fallen short of some imaginary and meaningless standards.
Only if you're an anal retentive asshole not interested in fostering and promoting growth. Real life isn't a flowchart. The USSF's mission is to foster and encourage the growth of all facets of soccer in the United States. The initial reason to grant waivers is to give startups time to get up to speed and handle the hiccups than any new enterprise encounters without being overly pedantic and officious. Don't kill the baby in its crib. The initial grant of waivers was in no way, shape, or form an admission that the standards weren't desirable or necessary. Even the NASL agreed - they helped draft the standards. Your historical revisionism saddens me as you seem to rather well spoken (written), and more nuanced than the normal talking point mouthbreathers that troll these forums.
No, it means USSF has been erring on the side of caution and not killing non-compliant league sources when they could. These were always aspirational, and as they were a shock to the system, not being draconian about it from the jump seemed prudent. Were you around in the 90s? The standards are neither meaningless nor imaginary. They are, however, difficult. As they should be.
I feel that should just be typed, bolded, and put on the top of anything related to the NASL lawsuit. The NASL helped draft the standards and they were largely drafted to push the USL to Division III while they remained in Division II. Just because Rocco wasn't there doesn't mean it is unfair.
Just because one is a party to formulating a set of standards does not mean one is supportive of all the standards. Many of the drafters of the US constitution were vehemently opposed to slavery.
False equivalency. Those drafters in opposition didn't come out 7 years later and say the Constitution was meaningless and should be scrapped (as far as I know, there's always one).
Tulsa huh? You wouldn’t be the sock puppet of one of our fav over the top pro/rel zealots....just trying to sound educated instead of victimized and aggressive. Things is, trying to sound like you know what u r talking about is quite different than actually doing it. Not gonna get away with that crap here. Reddit or some other children's webiste sure.....not here.
The lawsuit wants to scrap everything? Maybe it was a bad analogy but the point remain that just because you are a party to crafting something doesn't mean you agree with all of it, or won't be working to change things afterward. Constitution signed 1787 Amended 1791 To argue that one is bound by what one help crafted in perpetuity is simplistic not realistic and ignore the give and take always intrinsic to such a process.
Dude that's 1/2 of the lawsuit. 1) Injunction to keep the status quo while the litigation is pending and 2) doing away with USSF level standards and determination.
I read the lawsuit as declaring that the division standards (it help established) as applied by ussl was anti competitive (conspiracy for monopoly).
You seriously have some nerve to ask him to "explain" himself! I mean if you can't see he's right, then you're just some MLS bot who doesn't care about the sport and more importantly lower division soccer which is the life blood of everything in this country!!!!
So NASL likes to say they want to be competitive or wants to be considered as a serious option as a league, but why would an investor be attracted to the NASL after seeing the mess of a show it has been since it has been established? Teams join the league then become defunct after a year Teams not being able to afford to pay their players etc. like what argument does NASL really have to say that they deserve to be D2 or even exist?
I'll try.... MLS bad. MLS not pure. MLS is an evil corporate political entity. MLS doesn't do everything Euro.....I mean EPL does. USSF colludes using a a double secret handshake deal and has used it's influence to enhance MLS, and allowed it to succed, while undercutting everything the righteous, pure, enlightened martyr's who support NASL are fighting for. Justice against evil! Mostly meant to be humerous, but there is a lot of truth in the thought processes involved. Of course guys like Silva, Commisso, Peterson and Cosmos owners before are the Republic battling this Empire of evil. Oh the hilarity.
Is the NASL going to 'win $3.78' in the end? Hope the Cosmos are still around next year and beyond...seems like I'm a glutton for punishment for supporting this team!
Given that different people have read it and come to different opinions of it (as you and others have pointed out in your responses), I was interested in hearing a better explanation that what the lawsuit alleges. I personally see no anti-competitive conspiracy based on what was written in the lawsuit (as cliff-noted by Beau Dure, as I don't have the time to kill poring over every word of the lawsuit). I would like to hear a differing opinion based on what was written in the lawsuit. Such nuanced opinions from the NASL side are rare here. Or are you unable to respond to any post with more than two sentences?
1. The NASL believes there is anti competitive consequences of the ussl recent decision to seek an injunction. 2. Some well known lawyers agree that argument to file a suit. 3. Now it is up to a judge to render an opinion. Other opinions really don't matter. While I may enjoy reading the opinions of others, I don't mistake them for facts, or as having significance or consequence. I don't come to an Internet forum with opinions to pass off or to seek an argument because both are meaningless. But I had to comment on the obvious fallacy that I did a few posts back. Btw, in your opinion as a result of ussl decision to revoke D2 status for NASL, would the various communities have more options for D2 soccer or less? And given the working relationship between usl and MLS, would the level of D2 approaches more like D1 or remain as D2?