Time for an overhaul - Summer Transfer Thread

Discussion in 'Arsenal' started by chjoak, Apr 14, 2017.

  1. flyerhawk

    flyerhawk Member

    Feb 5, 2006
    Hoboken NJ
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't want Sterling. If we are going to get rid of Sanchez, take the cash.

    Sterling is the captain of the September All-Stars.
     
  2. GunneRy

    GunneRy Member+

    Aug 22, 2006
    Chicago
    Jonny freaking Evans? Really?
     
  3. Rewinder

    Rewinder Member+

    Jun 24, 2004
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    He chose Man City apparently, so no need to worry on that front. Pep is really saving us from ourselves this week.
     
  4. MizzouMUFC

    MizzouMUFC Member+

    Apr 10, 2010
    Places
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Evans would easily be your 2nd best CB after Kos.
     
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  5. Gunning4Chelsea

    Gunning4Chelsea Member+

    Aug 2, 2005
    chicago
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    million dollar move
    ten cent shot
     
  6. DaPrince84

    DaPrince84 Member+

    Aug 22, 2001
    MD
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Wenger didnt do a good job at developing him.

    This feels more like a "Arsene, you may be wrecking my career" move than anything else.

    I think he could be good in a more rigid system and with proper coaching. It coulda been faster if he had a different coach at a younger age.
     
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  7. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Grauniad says Sterling + 20m for Alexis. I'd do this deal before City could correct the obvious typo
     
  8. yossarian

    yossarian Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 16, 1999
    Big City Blinking
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Scrivener's error....
     
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  9. Super Llama

    Super Llama Member+

    May 21, 2006
    Seattle
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    I'm gonna feel pretty melancholy about losing Ox. He's never been a consistent player for us but it's been apparent how much potential he's had, and how poorly he's been developed. That's obviously a theme with our squad of young players in general.

    I'd say also--I think Ox has passed the eye test for this calendar year, as well as the stats test. That is to say I personally don't think Knutson's analysis clashes with the player I've watched. On the whole he's been good, and he's taken on the Ramsey role of "doesn't hide in matches, even when we're getting smashed."

    I really can't blame any players that are trying to leave this club at this point. I just desperately want a new manager with modern ideas about...everything regarding a football club. There's not much that's more frustrating about an "innovator" who only disrupts one cycle of thinking, and then rests on his laurels for the rest of his career. That's what we have in Arsene.

    Having Sterling here will probably feed into his worst impulses as a player--think he probably needs structure like Ox does. Maybe it'll be enough chaos theory to keep us in the top 10 lol
     
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  10. Super Llama

    Super Llama Member+

    May 21, 2006
    Seattle
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Wait Gibbs sale has been approved too? for 7m????

     
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  11. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    +1

    I've wanted Ozil to leave for 2 years because I like watching him play well! It's a tragedy he will waste his talents on this crap!

    I've said all along Ramsey and Wilshere are ruining their careers at Arsenal

    Ox is already 24 - he can make it but not if he stays

    He needs to learn his trade, from other elite players and with elite management - and NOT be injured all the time.

    The players have simply realised en masse what Nasri, Cesc and RvP realised.
     
  12. GunnerJacket

    GunnerJacket Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 18, 2003
    Gainesville, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Don't you mean 1 GBP?!
     
  13. GunnerJacket

    GunnerJacket Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 18, 2003
    Gainesville, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Serious question: Sterling, Walcott or Welbeck?

    I disagree in that there were/are broader circumstances that make those you mention rather different. Arsenal was still a perennial CL club back then. Cesc left to return explicitly to Barcelona, otherwise by all accounts he was perfectly content here and used quite well. Nasri was wooed by big money and made what at the time was a lateral move. In effect he and RvP caused the demise they were foreseeing, meaning they well could've stayed and contributed to righting the ship just as easily.
     
  14. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    And yet they didn't because Wenger could not convince them to stay.

    The dudes Mana has been running out
     
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  15. MisplacedSpainard

    Apr 5, 2007
    Silver Spring, MD
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    I'm pretty sure RVP and company are more symptoms of the problems that already existed at the club rather than a cause for what we are seeing.
     
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  16. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Yes.

    And here we are again with 2 of the elite players refusing to sign contracts
     
  17. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    RVP and Nasri left for three times the money guys. Wenger could have been Arrigo Sacchi crossed with Pep Guardiola, and it wouldn't have mattered.
     
  18. Sian

    Sian Member

    Dec 4, 2011
    I'm at a loss why any of the parties involved would want an Ox-to-Chelsea ... He's probably too important on Arsenals team, he's not good enough to be a starting 11 on Chelsea, and he's sure as hell aren't going to become better by sitting on their bench
     
  19. Aaron d

    Aaron d Member+

    May 15, 2005
    Wooster
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What great business! I bet the shareholders and owner are stoked!
     
  20. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    But actually nothings changed

    RvP looked for any evidence the club was serious about signing elite players

    Liverpool have now secured better signings and may well spin the Cuntinho money into Lemar

    Arsenal are currently + in the transfer market :ROFLMAO:
     
  21. GunnerJacket

    GunnerJacket Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 18, 2003
    Gainesville, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    I think that is the problem right there.
     
  22. flyerhawk

    flyerhawk Member

    Feb 5, 2006
    Hoboken NJ
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Are you guys seriously buying that guys like Nasri and RVP didn't leave for triple wages but instead left because of a lack of supposed ambition? You can't be that naive.

    We can criticize Wenger and the club for many reasons, but not blowing up their wage bill isn't a great argument.
     
  23. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    It was pointed out on Arseblog that the strangest aspect is he was not offered a new contract - presumably because he was considered not good enough - then suddenly they tried to retain him

    Why?

    what a mess!
     
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  24. flyerhawk

    flyerhawk Member

    Feb 5, 2006
    Hoboken NJ
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm indifferent. None of them can stay healthy long enough to matter.
     
  25. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    RvP would have got huge money had he stayed.

    He left to win stuff.

    The bottom line is the combo of Wenger+Stan is toxic

    I am convinced the only point of Wenger is to make Stan as much money as possible on the smallest outlay.

    That's now turned into fear of loss.

    Stan won't fund big moves because he can see he is in for some serious cash hits.
     

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