Lining Raiola's Pockets - The 2017 Summer Transfer Thread

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  1. gatekeeper2

    gatekeeper2 Member+

    Jun 1, 2015
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    That is, of course, a very reasonable concern. He's not going to play -- for anyone -- until he's cleared all medical evaluations. It's just not gonna happen that he'll look poor in performance/medicals and Jose goes with him anyway.

    What we'll have, once he's cleared to play, is a vastly better backup striker than any other club on the planet and a striker who's better than most other strikers on the planet.

    Amigos, we're not looking at Zlatan like a footballer who might be here 3-4 seasons from now.
     
  2. benni...

    benni... BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 23, 2004
    Chocolate City
    Why is that a problem?

    Zlatan with a strike partner is always good.
     
  3. sdotsom

    sdotsom Member+

    Manchester United
    Mar 27, 2005
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    Manchester United FC
    Apparently Pereira is going on loan to Valencia for the year. With Matic coming in and Herrera, Carrick, and Fellaini still mainly on the bench, it makes sense. Still sad to see him go but at least it's not a wasted year.
     
  4. JamesA

    JamesA Member+

    Dec 7, 2004
    Victoria
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    I think it would curtail much of our directness and countering. I see that as our best way forward.

    I think it also increases the chance of both martial and Rashford being on the bench together for said game.
     
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  5. benni...

    benni... BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 23, 2004
    Chocolate City
    Yeah, makes sense.

    We need another striker though.
     
  6. JamesA

    JamesA Member+

    Dec 7, 2004
    Victoria
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    Agreed. And if used appropriately, I'm for it too.

    But he's got to realize he's not top dog, or even second or third dog.
     
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  7. Teso Dos Bichos

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  8. MizzouMUFC

    MizzouMUFC Member+

    Apr 10, 2010
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    I don't see Ibra being ok with riding the bench. It's not in his DNA.
     
  9. Ashur

    Ashur Member+

    Manchester United
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    May 31, 2015
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    It may not be up to him and by that I'm not just referring to Jose (even if he will have the last word in terms of his usage). Zlatan could be recovered and fit, but it still remains to be seen how he will look upon returning. It could be weeks or even months before he's truly back to himself (if it happens at all).
    The fact remains that he will not be indispensable as he was dat season, so there's absolutely no reason to run him to the ground by constantly playing.
    He probably will be at his most effective in spurts and I trust that's how Jose will see it that way as well. Unless, by some miracle he manages to return at the same level he was pre-injury right away (which is unlikely).
     
  10. Ruud v.Nistelrooy 10

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    Jamaica
    Jun 4, 2006
    Antilla
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  11. Diable Rouge

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    Jul 17, 2006
  12. Ashur

    Ashur Member+

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    May 31, 2015
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    He is, which is why there is talk that if United were to get him, they'd allow him to say to Fulham this coming season on loan.
     
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  13. Diable Rouge

    Diable Rouge Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    i wonder how much palace would ask should we try to buy back zaha - and whether he would want to come back.. lvg gave up on him too soon, we could really use a right winger that doesn't try to come inside at every opportunity.
     
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  14. Drae

    Drae Member+

    Jun 26, 2006
    Australia
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    That may well be the case.

    But the particulars of the injury and the surgery can significantly change recovery times. They may have used a synthetic ligament for example, which will drastically reduce recovery time.

    Which isnt to say that more aggressive surgical and rehab approaches arent without downsides and negatives. Or that an injury at the end of the professional lifespan isnt harder to recover from.

    But its probably excessive to say Zlatan has a 0% chance of coming back at reasonable form before usual 10-18 months of treatment and rehab.
     
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  15. Ruud v.Nistelrooy 10

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    Jamaica
    Jun 4, 2006
    Antilla
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    Manchester United FC
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    would you seriously consider him over the other options out there?
     
  16. Diable Rouge

    Diable Rouge Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    he'd be my plan b if we can't get perisic. bale trumps all options, obviously.
     
  17. Ashur

    Ashur Member+

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    May 31, 2015
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    In a market where there so few decent right sided options, much less available ones, Zaha really would not be the worst choice. He's taken his game to a different level last season and if other options fail, we could do worse.
    With things as they stand though, provided we don't make a move this summer and we still have a clear need for a right sided forward after this season, I would love for us to make a move for Carrasco. I get that he's got a €100mil release clause on him, but he'll still be just 24 by next summer. Would be worth it, should he have another good campaign with Atleti.
     
  18. SyedZada

    SyedZada Member+

    May 14, 2008
    Santa Clara
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    Manchester United FC
    Would people take Ox?
     
  19. benni...

    benni... BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 23, 2004
    Chocolate City
    ******** no!
     
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  20. Ashur

    Ashur Member+

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    May 31, 2015
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    If he can play effectively on the right, I would most definitely. The problem is that I haven't seen him play in that role for a very long time now and the positions Arsene keeps playing him in are not ones of need for us as far as he's concerned.
     
  21. b0sk1

    b0sk1 Member+

    Jan 28, 2011
    Virginia Beach, VA
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    United States
    Congrats on coming back! I'm shooting for a return this fall.
     
  22. cr7torossi

    cr7torossi Member+

    May 10, 2007
    Not at the wages he would want.
     
  23. MizzouMUFC

    MizzouMUFC Member+

    Apr 10, 2010
    Places
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    Manchester United FC
    Thanks. It was pretty rough. Cutting and turns felt fine but straight line sprint was pretty rough. I don't think my quad strength is quite there yet. Good luck on the return.
     
  24. Chaz Striker

    Chaz Striker Member+

    Jul 26, 2005
    Denver
    I now question you suitability as a mod. If you can't keep up with the physical side, you probably can't keep up with the mental and emotional strength needed for the position.
     
  25. MizzouMUFC

    MizzouMUFC Member+

    Apr 10, 2010
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    When I say my quad strength isn't quite there, I mean compared to my good leg. Compared to the rest of you, my bad leg quad strength is superhuman.
     
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