Forth Eorlingas - Stoke City v. The Arsenal, Saturday, August 19 2017 1730 GMT

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  1. Boondock

    Boondock Member

    Jul 21, 2010
    Ox looks to have started well.

    Defence super shaky as always.
     
  2. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

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    Mar 29, 2006
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    Shaquiri does his hammie. That's a plus for us. He's been dangerous in the past.
     
  3. GunnerJacket

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    Sep 18, 2003
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    23' min and Arsenal looking the better overall but still susceptible at the back. ie: Situation normal.

    Welbeck looking really good and threatening, IMO.
     
  4. GunnerJacket

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    Sep 18, 2003
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    Butland with his 2nd big save already.
     
  5. NorthBank

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    That would have been a beautiful goal by Ramsey. Should've been!
     
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  6. Deep Wilcox

    Deep Wilcox BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 5, 2007
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    That slide on Hector was a stone PK
     
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  7. daedalus

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    Apr 24, 2004
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    i would consider it a logical explanation if last week wasn't really the first time he'd ever tried that configuration. more than anything, i think it's because oxlade-chamberlain actually became more interested and lively after being moved there last week.
     
  8. NorthBank

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    Indeed! Andre Mariner havin a bad day? :(
     
  9. NorthBank

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    Bellerin played LWB last week? I missed that.
     
  10. Aaron d

    Aaron d Member+

    May 15, 2005
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    Shawcross misses a header after our entire team caught ball watching.
     
  11. daedalus

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    Apr 24, 2004
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    i feel like it's a legitimate shout. a foul doesn't or shouldn't have to be just on the leg to be a valid one.

    regardless, the fact that ramsey tried to play football instead of flopping meant it got zero consideration.
     
  12. daedalus

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    Apr 24, 2004
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    moved there after the formation change.
     
  13. Boondock

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    Jul 21, 2010
    Always liked Zouma.
     
  14. NorthBank

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    Ozil looks VERY lively today. :)
     
  15. NorthBank

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    Stoke fans booing Ramsey. Hard to fathom. They are cretins.
     
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  16. Boondock

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    Jul 21, 2010
    I think the Bellerin incident was more of a shout (though not a stone cold PK). I agree that leg to leg contact isn't the only thing that leads to a PK, obviously, but shoulder-to-shoulder should be given more leeway.
     
  17. daedalus

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    Apr 24, 2004
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    oh, look. diouf is now fine. what a wonder recovery.
     
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  18. R9Kevinr9

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    Feb 2, 2007
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    We need a CM and CB so badly.
     
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  19. banco

    banco Member

    Mar 27, 2010
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    We don't even play the cbs we have now; for some reason our manager would rather play fullback there.
     
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  20. Aaron d

    Aaron d Member+

    May 15, 2005
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    Not a horrible half for us. Couple decent shots and three penalty shouts. Some more of a shout than others.

    Mariner is having a poor game. His calls are not consistent. I think Xhaka is having a rough match. He doesn't seem to pair well with Ramsey (who loves drifting forward) and left to control so much in front of our defenders alone.
     
  21. daedalus

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    Apr 24, 2004
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    oh, the bellerin one was a definite shout. in fact, BTsports had a referee review it and he confirmed that, on replay, it was a definite penalty but (and i agree with him) in real-time, it was easy to miss and he would have not given it either.

    i agree that there is and should be some leeway with shoulder-to-shoulder contact - it's a contact sport, after all - but he was not playing the ball at all and went purely for the shouldering him over. i'm not arguing that it SHOULD have been a penalty - i'm not even that convinced that it is - just the fact that it wasn't even considered simply because ramsey played to the whistle instead of flopping like many would have done.
     
  22. Boondock

    Boondock Member

    Jul 21, 2010
    No good deed goes unpunished.
     
  23. IAH-Gooner

    IAH-Gooner Member

    Dec 12, 2014
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    I think a lot of fans wanted to see Ox on the right. When I saw the lineup, I was hoping these two would maybe switch sides at some point in the game to mix things up
     
  24. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
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    Yeah xhaka been poor

    I like our attacking movement

    Ozil is playing well, looks very mobile and passing well
     
  25. daedalus

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    Apr 24, 2004
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    just have to appreciate that foul called on ramsey with zero contact on butland. well done, andre. well done.
     
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