Official: 2017 Rumor and Roster Moves Thread

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  1. Crzyknot

    Crzyknot Member

    Sep 30, 2006
  2. GalaxyKoa

    GalaxyKoa Member+

    Jul 18, 2007
    North County
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    Los Angeles
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    United States
    Under normal circumstances, yes.

    However, Jelle was a DP (even though he currently isn't) and when you sell a DP you have to recoup your investment in said player before getting any GAM. The club gets 100% of the transfer fee up until the investment, then it's split according to the other rules. Jelle's guaranteed comp this year was 662500 and if we assume that's his actual cap hit (plus the 4% added on for the 401k) then we'd have spent roughly $105k in off-budget money to him as a half season DP thus far. So the Galaxy would get 100% of the first $105k of the transfer fee which has to be invested in the club. The rest, $130k, would be split 2/3 with LA getting roughly $87k in GAM (or they could just take the money to invest if they so choose) and the league getting $43k.

    The values on that are subject to things we don't know (like Jelle's actual budget hit) but it's likely to be not terribly far off.
     
  3. GalaxyKoa

    GalaxyKoa Member+

    Jul 18, 2007
    North County
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  4. Benny Dargle

    Benny Dargle Member+

    Jul 23, 2008
    LA
    Not sure, but according to this site he played 25 games last year in Ligue 1 with less than stellar results (although hard to judge without knowing more about the rest of the team/backline/GK etc)

    https://mls.show/galaxy

     
  5. Dawdler

    Dawdler Member+

    Apr 2, 2005
    Los Angeles,CA
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    United States
    well, it looks like the Galaxy has cornered the Franco-Mexican market, Bravo!
     
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  6. UcIceD2011

    UcIceD2011 Member+

    Jul 10, 2011
    Nor Cal
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    Los Angeles Galaxy
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    United States
    I saw Baxter post (twitter) about this but I wonder how scouting works on our team? It does seem strange we keep going back to the same well year after year. Do we have scouts or are we recommended players by agents? Lots of questions...
     
  7. rtdavide

    rtdavide Member+

    Apr 20, 2005
    Whittier, CA
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    Los Angeles Galaxy
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    United States
    yeah, I was thinking about that connection we supposedly had with São Paulo back when we got Juninho, Leonardo and Alex Cazumba. Wonder if that was only a short term thing that is no longer operational, or if we haven't seen anything there that is of interest
     
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  8. Geneva

    Geneva LA for Life

    Feb 5, 2003
    Southern Cal
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    Los Angeles Galaxy
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    United States
    I respect your opinion, but don't agree with it. I think McBean is too young to write off as a target forward, and I've seen some good skill for the position, and work rate. He reminds me a lot of Alan Gordon - is he not as athletic, in your opinion?

    Also have no hope of playoffs for this team. I would bet anyone we will not be there. Need to make peace with it. :_)
     
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  9. TruffleShuffle

    Dec 7, 2011
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    Los Angeles Galaxy
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    United States
    does this make Cole our new captain?

    i would imagine courtois has had a hand in all the french players
     
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  10. skydog

    skydog Member+

    Aug 1, 1999
    Durham, NC
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    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Its something a few of us have complained about for years - LAG's lack of true scouting of South American players. Some disagreed with us, others agreed, but SoCalYid and I beat this drum to death. I just feel we had a few arrangements of convenience like the Sao Paulo deal, but that isn't close to really scouring the SA leagues for young talent we could attract. Atlanta is just one of several teams that are picking gems that are young enough to serve them for years. Meanwhile we get JJ and Pedro. And this new Ciani signing seems like more of the old model - an older European who has some left over cred from something he did years ago. Plus he has so many warning signs that its hard to have faith he will be a great, steady player for us over an extended time. Hope I'm 100% wrong.
     
  11. skydog

    skydog Member+

    Aug 1, 1999
    Durham, NC
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    Los Angeles Galaxy
    It's ok we don't agree. Gordon, like McBean aren't fast or skilled enough to be effective starters but Gordo had a well developed specialized skill set that was perfect for end of game situations. It came from a combination of superior height (Gordo is 6'3", McBean is 6'0"), athleticism and some well developed skills. In a crowded box his timing, strength, IQ, leaping ability and absolute never-give-up attitude allowed him to get off perfectly timed, and surprisingly accurate driven headers. When he headed the ball he was going for the score, not to just get his head on the ball; he aimed for places the goalie can't reach. So many forwards seem happy to jump up and head the ball hard in the direction of the goal hoping something good will happen, which usually ends up a goalie save or an outright miss. Not Gordo.
    I just don't see that end of game winner mentality/ability in McBean, and like I said I wouldn't want either as starters. I predicted before the season started that McBean would end up with 3 or 4 goals for the season and so far he's right on pace with 2 so far (8 starts, 14 game played).
    And again I hope I'm 100% wrong and Jack greatly improves and becomes a star for us. But I will be shocked if it happens.
     
  12. Baysider

    Baysider Member+

    Jul 16, 2004
    Santa Monica
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    For me, Gordon was a narrow set of skills. Very much a blue collar type. Work hard, bang up the defenders, wear everyone down late. Add some good heading skills to that and he was an effective role player.

    Watching McBean yesterday, he's a different kind of players. Moves well but not fast. More of a playmaking forward: avoids the banging, soft feet, likes to pass, decent awareness. The big downside is that he gets lots of opportunities and has trouble finishing and that's hard to forgive in a starting forward.

    I certainly could be wrong, but I don't see him either improving his finishing enough to be a starting forward, or shifting his skills to play a more subordinate role. Jamieson and Lassiter are different kinds of forwards, but I think they are forwards and not midfielders so I would like to see them get more time at forward even if it means sitting McBean.
     
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  13. wcmanes

    wcmanes Member

    May 28, 1999
    Riverside, Ca, USA
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    Los Angeles Galaxy
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    United States
    Since we first signed him I've always thought McBean's only hope for making it was to become more of a Gordon clone. He needs to up the energy level 10X. Even if he only can last 15 min.
     
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  14. LEM-LAG

    LEM-LAG Member+

    May 28, 2011
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    Thank you, I've been saying for years McBean is not the new Gordon.

    Jack has better skills (see his goals against Colorado, Gordon is not capable of doing this), but it's the perfect example skills are not everything. McBean is good at a lot of things, but not great at one thing and I think that's why he'll never be more than depth at the MLS level.
     
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  15. TrickHog

    TrickHog Moderator
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    Oct 14, 2002
    Los Angeles, CA
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  16. LEM-LAG

    LEM-LAG Member+

    May 28, 2011
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    Olympique Lyonnais
    I saw people asking why we signed so many french players during the last couple of years. I may have the beginning of an answer...

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    You probably don't know this guy. His name is Jérome Meary, he's french.

    He worked a few years for "Elite Athletes Agency", who was in charge of respresenting the MLS in Europe and trying to sign players to MLS (they were not "true" agents). They allowed a lot of players to move to the US, a lot of french players but not only french. For example this is why Diop, Auras and Bli signed with G2 a few years ago (maybe Diallo too but I'm not sure). Perrinelle (NYRB), Perquis (Toronto), Nogueira (Philly), Pierazzi (Quakes) moved to MLS thanks to them for example.

    Then he was hired in the MLS organization chart and is currently responsible of the recruitment of european players for the MLS. I believe he had a lot to do with the Alessandrini signing.

    Here are some pics I found on his Instagram page :

    This one with Kirovski in a soccer tournament in France : https://www.instagram.com/p/BFgAjTVRmJi/

    This one with a Galaxy Jersey : https://www.instagram.com/p/BM9dngNg2o3/?taken-by=jeromemeary

    Based on his Instagram pics, he seems to have a good relashionship with Jovan.

    He also posted a photo a few days ago about the Ciani signing (saying he was trying to sign him for about four years) : https://www.instagram.com/p/BX-MzKmDUT8/?taken-by=jeromemeary

    So don't be surprised if we sign more french players in the future, it might have a little bit to do with this guy.
     
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  17. MPNumber9

    MPNumber9 Member+

    Oct 10, 2010
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    Los Angeles Galaxy
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    United States
    The forward conversation is interesting in general. I agree with the assessment on McBean, he seems like yet another 9.5 in the mix but...that's really a problem globally if you look at the trends. This came up in another thread, but there are very few true 9s coming up in the younger ranks, this is why a player like Mbappe from Monaco is in such ridiculous demand he's sort of a rarity in his age group.
     
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  18. wcmanes

    wcmanes Member

    May 28, 1999
    Riverside, Ca, USA
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    Los Angeles Galaxy
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    United States
    Diego Costa is a true 9 without a club. Couldn't make this s--tshow much worse. lol
     
  19. StillKickin

    StillKickin Member+

    Austin FC
    Dec 17, 2002
    Texas
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    Los Angeles Galaxy
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    United States
    This description of McBean reminds me a lot of Kenny Cooper. They both (McBean and Cooper) could use a little Gordo in them.
     
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  20. Baysider

    Baysider Member+

    Jul 16, 2004
    Santa Monica
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    Kenny Cooper is exactly who he reminds me of. I wonder whatever happened to him.
     
  21. skydog

    skydog Member+

    Aug 1, 1999
    Durham, NC
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    Los Angeles Galaxy
    #3221 skydog, Aug 20, 2017
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    Kenny frustrated his coaches because he refused to stay up top and center. Despite being 6'3" (like Gordon) Cooper was agile and actually pretty good 1 v 1 on the wings. Last real season was with Seattle in 2015. Got picked up by Montreal but got injured and only played 1 game for them and then retired even though he was only 30.

    It's easy to forget how good Kenny was in his prime. 40 goals in 90 games for Dallas, 18 goals in 36 games for NYRB. Those are close to Keane/Donovan type #'s but he didn't sustain it for nearly as long.
     
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  22. L.A. Native

    L.A. Native Member+

    Aug 1, 2013
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    Paging @GalaxyKoa

    Can we buy down Romain's contact with TAM/GAM or is his salary too high?
     
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  23. Benny Dargle

    Benny Dargle Member+

    Jul 23, 2008
    LA
    His salary is $2 million or above IIRC. TAM can only be used up to $1 million salaries unless you convert a DP to a TAM player in the secondary transfer window (that recently closed), in which case the limit is $1.5 million.
     
  24. Beakmon FC

    Beakmon FC Member+

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    Jan 10, 2002
    The OC
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    Los Angeles Galaxy
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    United States
    Time for a Galaxy-centric rule change
     
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  25. MPNumber9

    MPNumber9 Member+

    Oct 10, 2010
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    Los Angeles Galaxy
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    United States
    We could also always sell Romain. The dude's in his prime and playing well; I wouldn't be surprised if we try to ship him off in the off-season and bring in a 9. (not that I think that's the best option).
     
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