08/12: Tape Delay: FCD vs Colorado [R]

Okay this VAR thing sucks. I can't believe they would go that far back to overturn a goal. You would think that VAR would overturn every goal if a play several passes back can overturn a goal. I thought they would use it to see if a goal crossed over the line or to verify a foul in a penalty kick. This is too much. This is going to ruin the game for me if it's not fixed.

 

It's been ruined. I would think Every score could be taken back based upon that kind of criteria.

I am angry. I don't understand. I know it's a common homer attitude but it seems conspiratorial. I don't know.

 

VAR rules state that they can go back to the start of the attacking move that led to the goal on a review.

Under the rules that was a legitimate overturn. This type of sequence is one of the things that concerned me about replay though. I'm glad they're doing something but plays like this make me question if they're doing the right thing to help the refs.

 

I don't care if this was technically by the book according to VAR. Kelly was looking right at the play as it occurred. Call the damn foul. Idiotic to let FCD continue to play all the way up the field.

What is the required wait time to celebrate goals now that VAR is in use?

 

I don't want to get too distracted by the video replay nonsense. We played an absolute crap team at home and didn't score. We need to be reserving some of our ire for our sputtering offense.

 

Lamah needs to find the bench. Tesho is never the answer either.

 

Bull. We did score and the refs did something to FCD they haven't done to any other team with VAR and took it back. Again. You think Bayern or ManU, Barca etc get that called back? Until I see that same call happen over and over I won't believe it. The other ridiculous part is the ref was looking right at Atiba when the "foul" was made and didn't call it. Imagine a 30 pass sequence a team uses to score a goal where every single touch has an opportunity for the goal to be called back for some foul. Haven't been so angry in years.

 

It's the New Normal, y'all. Best gets used to it.
Now, that incident in Orlando. Oy.

 

just proof the Soccer Gods are still really pissed about Southlake

 

13 seconds and about 80 yards from the foul to the goal. When I saw the rule mention "attacking phase" I thought "Man, how do you define 'attacking phase'? This could be really stupid." Boy was I right. MLS should track +/- goals from VAR. We're at -2. I don't see how any team ends up in the positive (no, I'm not giving Colorado +1 for this one).
Whatever you want to say about "making sure we get it right," etc., I (and several thousand others) had a really crappy fan experience Saturday night. I've been pretty down after some losses, but I don't remember feeling so disgusted as I did Saturday.
As stupid as this is, I don't blame it for the loss (I know we tied, but it sure feels like a loss). I blame our craptacular finishing and the magic of Tim Howard.

 

I was thinking of Barca after our game. Let's say Barca's keeper collects an errant long pass and tosses the ball out to Pique who starts a 50 pass sequence leading to a brilliant Messi goal. The opponents then jump up and down for VAR hoping for anything. After review, "Sorry boys, the GK's fingers went outside the penalty area when he threw the ball to Pique. No goal. Hand ball. Direct kick the other way."
I'm eagerly awaiting when something like what happened to us Saturday happens in a stadium with more fervent fans, like Portland or Orlando. Many say MLS lacks the atmosphere of other countries. VAR calls like this may bring some good Euro or South American style rioting to MLS.

 

It sure seems like VAR is going to negate more goals than it's going to allow. If that ends up being the case you could attack VAR as bad for the game along a very stereotypically American line of logic:

1. People love goals.
2. VAR causes there to be fewer goals.
3. VAR is terrible and destroying the game.

I'm interested to see if #2 is actually true. To be fair I think it's too soon to say that definitively.

 

Maybe it is being handled differently in other stadiums, but I think a huge flaw here is the presentation within the stadium. There is no announcement to the crowd that VAR is being engaged (of course you can see the ref walk over to the screen), they don't show the replay in the stadium, and they don't make an official announcement of the result. I wasn't at the match last weekend but heard all three of these complaints from several who were. Most explained that more than "half?" the stadium had no idea why a free kick was being awarded at the other end. Certainly some kinks to be worked out with live game day presentation.

 

I'm glad he's gone just like I'm glad Kinear is gone even though the teams are better without them. I just hated watching our games with CRapids. MLS 1.0 bootball. Hard to even press them because in their defensive end they didn't try and possess at all.