Yep, NASL will soon have to give up and join. USL just makes so much more sense for a club. Attendance is good, travel distances are shorter. More opponents. More local rivalries. Win, win, win. The only negative is the constant reminder that a few of your opponents are a reminder that you are second division.
94 per game. So 94 multiplied by the number of games that had been played up to this point in 2016. So yeah, just a little more than 94
156 x 94 = 14,664...also known as "don't worry about it, just wait until Atlanta has their first game in Mercedes Benz Stadium and then take the average".
Sure but my point still stands. Saying, "So we are 94 people less than last year?" is completely inaccurate and intentionally misleading. 14,664 is 14,570 more than 94.
Not if the context of the comment is clearly in reference to the average attendance, given the quote referenced spelled out "average attendance" three times and did not at all include total attendance. Good grief. edit: and for further perspective, if Atlanta had played one more home game (they've played 5) and Columbus one fewer (they've played 8), this season's average would be higher than last season's average by more than 100 (off the top of my head).
14k difference out of over 3m total attendance is a less than .5% difference in total attendance. You're trying to make an issue out of what is equivalent to a rounding error.
F*** the Braves ownership. Plus the Braves suck this year, so... May that ever be so, good sir. Oh I would love that. And for what it's worth, if any of you fellow BS patrons make the trip to Atlanta for a match I'll be happy to treat you to a pint on your visit. I'm simply that thrilled to be a part of this. On the flip side MLS has added more markets and continues to hold the average, so each match week means an additional 20k people in the country are out watching MLS compared to last year.
For the sake of argument, let's say average attendance for 2017 ends up almost 100 people per game below 2016. It ends up the second highest in league history, not even half a percent off the best ever. Will it be less than I had hoped? Yes. Will it be bad? No.
Sooner or later the trend of upward figures was going to stop. That was a given. MLS still has plenty of work to do when it comes do securing itself as a draw in many markets, let alone on TV. But the big picture remains the necessary perspective. Places like Columbus and Dallas are below optimal right now, so those need work, but for most teams their averages from 10+ years ago are still a marked improvement. Again, I just remind myself that MLS had a few years where it was averaging about 14k as a league! With half the members we see today! The number of games below 10k last year was 0 and should be the same this year. (Kvetch all we want about tix distributed but this is likely an apples-to-apples comparison so the measure is valid.) Thus, I still hold faith that in time we will see a day when the number of games below 15k is half of what we see today, and hopefully close to 0.
Noobs. You're so cute. If Raleigh gets a team (higher percentage chance than most folks on BigSoccer realize), I would never make such an offer. (It could get expensive!) But as I'll likely be in Atlanta sooner rather than later, I'll keep this in mind.
Fresno's PDL average attendance in 2016 was 3,951, which is only exceeded by 14 Div 2 teams in 2017. Detroit City's 5,208 last season would comfortably beat the 3rd highest in NASL this current year. Pro/rel in USL!!
The source was named. You being obstinate made you disregard it. There's no agenda. No one is lying to you about the attendances. Wrong. As Paul Berry showed the numbers in the chart are vs 2016 in toto. You read it wrong. Thx, Jay!
Cincinnati reported that they've already exceeded 15,000 for next week's Hell Is Real derby in the USOC. Not bad since tickets officially went on sale this morning. (Of course Cincy season ticket members and Crew fans had been allowed to buy all weekend long.)
yeah I think MLS has reached its peak attendance-wise - at least until they're regarded with the likes of Premier league, etc.
Firstly, I am not at all concerned with attendance....I think there are always ups and always downs and a bigger league over a longer time will figure all these things out.....but I did go back and look at whiteonrice04's original post on this subject and there is a valid point to discuss (i think)......in it he pointed out that this season's "drop" in attendance (relative to last year) is in a year where the team leading attendance is a new team....in fact the "average of the averages" of the two new teams is over 30k...no? In the retail industry there is a stat that is often quoted ....increase/decrease in same store sales.....each year retailers report on the sales at stores that have been in operation for more than a year....this is to eliminate the perception that their sales may be increasing but that is just because they are opening more stores....so they isolate the performance of of non-new stores.....I don't have all the numbers at hand....but it would seem that there may be larger decrease in average in "same stadium sales"....that is if we compare the average attendance at this point this year to the same point last year but only measure teams that existed at this time last year. The average being down only 94/game is nice...but it may be (likely is) down a bit more than that if MIN and ATL are not included in the calc.
Is it possible TFC doesn't use turnstile count? Generally TFC announced figures have not indicated that. But I believe it's public knowledge of 21K season tickets....not sure what's up
The average official capacity of MLS Stadiums is less than 24,000, so we're not likely to average >30,000 very soon. No MLS teams use turnstile count.
Hate to gum up the works lol…but now Marca…I'm guessing covering Villa...has a different number for the blues on Saturday…22k even…sounds liked an estimate but without an official number who knows… http://www.marca.com/futbol/estados-unidos/2017/06/04/5933d7c6e2704e1d4d8b4599.html No-showitis infects the entire metro area soccer scene...
I feel like I've been asked to show my ID! Cool! Well I do recognize Atlanta's more of a journey for anyone, so I got that in my favor. More importantly, these season tix were the one luxury I'm affording myself since the divorce as I get back into doing things that I want. I'm so thankful to have this outlet I'm just happy to share the joy!
Then the TFC mystery continues....cause a club with 21k season tickets....where every full season ticket included this match and 1 of their 2 half packs did also just announced a crowd significantly less than 21k.....and it is not the first time in the last few years they have announced crowds less than their season ticket count......so unless the theory is that their 21k is ~15k full season tickets....0 Pack 1 half packs and 12k Pack 2s (which would be interesting for those games cause there is not room for 33k people in the stadium) the numbers don't add up. https://www.torontofc.ca/tickets/halfpacks
I think I might have asked this before, but is San Jose's stadium at all expandable? They've sold out every game, and their stadium is kinda tiny. (Can't believe I am asking this, given their previous struggles)