Fire Curt Onalfo!

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  1. Baysider

    Baysider Member+

    Jul 16, 2004
    Santa Monica
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    That was a great podcast! I've been pushing the point that Chris Klein is in over his head for a while now. I fear that the only thing that will save us is if LAFC does so well and we do so poorly that AEG comes in and fires Klein and overhauls the whole thing.

    Here's who was hired by LAFC
    http://www.angelsonparade.com/2017/...ns-assistant-general-manager-new-york-yankees

    Different kind of pedigree.
     
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  2. Dr.Phil

    Dr.Phil Member+

    Jan 18, 2004
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  3. MPNumber9

    MPNumber9 Member+

    Oct 10, 2010
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hell, I said that about the Quakes new GM, who was sporting director at AS Roma. It's unacceptable when the Quakes are one-upping us organizationally. Does LA realize they don't have to hire former players?
     
  4. FlapJack

    FlapJack Member+

    Mar 3, 2006
    Los Angeles
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  5. FlapJack

    FlapJack Member+

    Mar 3, 2006
    Los Angeles
    It was fine to go cheap and try to blood some insiders when we had a strong manager/GM. But now we 100% newbies. Unacceptable for a premier organization.
     
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  6. 73Bruin

    73Bruin Member+

    Jul 12, 2008
    Torrance, California
    I think that there has to be another to hasten the Galaxy's return.
     
  7. Lazy Assed Assassin

    Jul 21, 2015
    No internet access for the day. Came here to see if Curt had been fired. Leaving disappointed.
     
  8. hav77

    hav77 Member+

    May 31, 2010
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    I thought we were brutal here on BS, but the commenters on the Gs FB, are even more so. A lot of #OnalfoOut tags along with #OnolfoOut ...lol
     
  9. shurikt

    shurikt Member

    Aug 4, 2004
    Las Vegas, NV
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think our sights are set far too low. This thread should probably be titled "Fire Chris Klein." And maybe hire someone who went to college?

    Edit: Apparently Indiana University counts as a college...
     
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  10. Lazy Assed Assassin

    Jul 21, 2015
    I think Klein get’s another shot. He ran (still runs?) a very successful investment fund for MLS players, getting younger players to think about having money set aside for retirement in a career that might only give them 10-15 years of earnings. Fund management doesn't necessarily equate to being adept at running a soccer team, but he’s not a dumb guy.
     
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  11. barroldinho

    barroldinho Member+

    Man Utd and LA Galaxy
    England
    Aug 13, 2007
    US/UK dual citizen in HB, CA
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Has it occurred to you that you might be interacting with people who don't have bachelors degrees?

    Conversely, I've met many a colossal moron with a University education.
     
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  12. shurikt

    shurikt Member

    Aug 4, 2004
    Las Vegas, NV
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Didn't mean to get your hackles all raised. Just suggesting that successfully running a multi-million dollar operation might correlate well with higher ed, and/or not just being a former player, as has been mentioned before.

    Has it occurred to you that you might be interacting with a college professor? ;)
     
  13. barroldinho

    barroldinho Member+

    Man Utd and LA Galaxy
    England
    Aug 13, 2007
    US/UK dual citizen in HB, CA
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    I agree that simply being a former player shouldn't be qualification enough to be the president of a team of this size.

    Then again, neither is a degree. I'd suggest that experience in this kind of field is more important.
     
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  14. TrickHog

    TrickHog Moderator
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    Oct 14, 2002
    Los Angeles, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't have the experience, nor a business degree, nor professional (or even college) playing experience.

    Waiting patiently by the phone for AEG to call.

    :)
     
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  15. Benny Dargle

    Benny Dargle Member+

    Jul 23, 2008
    LA
    If I were Beckerman and I were considering someone with industry experience to replace Klein or take on some sort of a senior leadership role with the Galaxy, I would look into Richard Motzkin. Super agent and former general counsel to US soccer. Knows everyone in the business (represented Arena, Donovan etc) and is as much a marketing/business guy as an agent. He's currently the Vice President in Chairge of Global Football at Wasserman Media Group, which represents not only tons of MLS players, but also 25% of the English Premier League. He's at the age where agents no longer want to do the hustle involved with that business and several agents in his position in other sports have moved into front office roles. He's also living in Los Angeles.
     
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  16. barroldinho

    barroldinho Member+

    Man Utd and LA Galaxy
    England
    Aug 13, 2007
    US/UK dual citizen in HB, CA
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Sounds like a good candidate from your description.
     
  17. Crzyknot

    Crzyknot Member

    Sep 30, 2006
  18. barroldinho

    barroldinho Member+

    Man Utd and LA Galaxy
    England
    Aug 13, 2007
    US/UK dual citizen in HB, CA
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Rather than shoring up the midfield by putting on Husidic and causing a problem with how to accommodate a more offensive Jones and a deeper GDS, how about telling Jones to stop running around like a headless chicken, leaving his midfield partner and defence exposed?

    It seems pretty clear to me that Jones and Pedro were not brought in to facilitate a 3 man midfield. That's just Onalfo's answer for (yet again) something he and Vagenas didn't consider in advance.

    More to the point, I'm not convinced that it worked all that well against Philly. They're not a good team and still created some good chances. Plus - as usual - regardless of what formation we were meant to be playing in, by the end of the game the players were once again seemingly taking up whatever positions took their fancy.
     
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  19. Crzyknot

    Crzyknot Member

    Sep 30, 2006
    I have to agree with you, everyone is talking about how much better they looked against Philly but did they really? I think it was the fact that we were playing an awful Philly side but I've seen pick up teams play much better than our guys. Other teams now know that all they need to do is push up high because we can't cope, but it's ok because we can just add another midfielder to the middle... Onalfosense for you
     
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  20. L.A. Native

    L.A. Native Member+

    Aug 1, 2013
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    and this agent-to-GM positional move has been in the news here in L.A. with Kobe's former agent now the Lakers' GM... although, no indication yet whether it'll work out or not.
     
  21. 73Bruin

    73Bruin Member+

    Jul 12, 2008
    Torrance, California
    I disagree with what you seem to be clear about. I think Jone was very much brought in to be the box-to-box mid in a 4-1-3-2 formation where the 3 was made up of Lletget, Jones and Allesandrini. Obviously, they haven't had that line-up because of injuries, but I think that was the intent. While Lletget might be a center-mid, Bruce predominiately played him at the wing including for the national team. I think they looked at Jones as the Sarvas whole field player. I think your analysis would be correct if Jones was brought in to play a 2nd defensive mid in some sort of empty bucket 4-2-2-2 formation. I don't think that this was the case.

    More importantly, I think you are missing the real problem. The Galaxy lack a D-Mid. Pedro is flat out a terrible player with few if any positive attributes. He doesn't play effective defense letting attackers run right by him and he doesn't hustle back after them. He trots after them and watches the play. Its like he is clueless about marking. He is also essentially useless when it comes to initiating the offense either on the counterattack or breaking even mild high pressure. In fact the only thing I can say positive about him is that he does seem less deficient at playing a back pivot when the Galaxy have the ball in the opponent's final third and need to reset the attack, but then even mild pressure seems to scare him.
     
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  22. barroldinho

    barroldinho Member+

    Man Utd and LA Galaxy
    England
    Aug 13, 2007
    US/UK dual citizen in HB, CA
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    I agree that Pedro isn't cutting it as a D-mid.

    However, I don't think Jones has done him any favours. It's one thing to be a box-to-box midfielder, but that requires positional discipline and in a two-man midfield, a cohesive partnership.

    As the senior member of the tandem with Pedro, he needs to be coordinating with the kid to make sure that gulfs of space aren't left in the center of the field when he gets forward.

    The fact that Husidic is now accompanying rather than replacing Pedro, is in part due to the fact that Jones isn't doing his part defensively.

    Even if the game plan is a 4-1-3-2, the fact that there is a '1' behind a '3', means that the central member of the '3' has additional defensive roles. He can't be a #10. He's closer to the Paul Scholes style #8 in that system, and that demands being impeccable off the ball.
     
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  23. TheHoustonHoyaFan

    Oct 14, 2011
    Houston
    Club:
    FC Schalke 04
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    To suggest that Jones is not doing his job defensively is odd given that Jones is 2nd on the team with tackles with 2.7 per and only gets dribbled 0.4 per. Jones also leads the team in run of play chances created with 2.1 per, getting fouled at 2 per and tied in assists with 2.

    It can't be overstated just how poor Pedro is as a DM. He is only making 1.9 tackles per and is getting dribbled 1.6 per which is a very very poor duel ratio for a DM, especially if the team wants to play a 4-1-3-2.

    Jones has proven in MLS that he can be part of a dynamic double pivot. Jones made Scot Caldwell look like a USMNT candidate when he partnered with Jones in NE.

    The problem is that Pedro does not do anything well as a DM. He is slow, positionally naive, is not a great forward passer, and a poor ball winner.
     
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  24. barroldinho

    barroldinho Member+

    Man Utd and LA Galaxy
    England
    Aug 13, 2007
    US/UK dual citizen in HB, CA
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Jones isn't being deployed in a double pivot and that was a couple of years and injuries ago now.

    I'm not surprised to see those stats because as I said, he flees around the field like a blue-arsed fly. The problem isn't whether he gets in enough tackles, it's where he is when he's making them.

    I'm not discounting that Pedro has been crap. That's obvious. However, he looked better with Husidic alongside him because the expansive space left in midfield when it's just him and Jones, isn't quite so pervasive.

    However, if it was just that Pedro was wank and Jones wasn't having issues of his own, then improvements would be made just by replacing him with Husidic. I'd argue that this still hasn't fixed the issues. Even against Philly, there were points where we looked undermanned in midfield.

    And none of this explains why Jones was our furthest player forward for extended spells (and not for the first time this season).
     
  25. Beirut

    Beirut Member+

    Feb 3, 2010
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    For those of you guys who nominated Piojo Herrera as the next Galaxy coach, Univision is reporting during the NYCFC/Atlanta game that he is returning to Club America.

    Sign continues to be the most obvious choice to take over once Onalfo is done.
     

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