2017 Regular Season Rumors, Transfers, and Player Movement Thread

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  1. WVUPharm2007

    WVUPharm2007 Member+

    Jul 24, 2011
    Montgomery Township, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Really is a great metaphor in that picture. Sugarman spends years looking for that last missing piece of the puzzle that might make the Union great. If only he'd look in the mirror and realize that it's on him...
     
  2. celt1997

    celt1997 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jan 31, 2006
    Philly Burbs
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  3. WVUPharm2007

    WVUPharm2007 Member+

    Jul 24, 2011
    Montgomery Township, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ilsinho at $518k. Simpson at $508k. Edu at $818k.

    Lol. I think I see part of the reason why this team sucks. They have the 12th highest payroll, too. Which is surprising.
     
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  4. celt1997

    celt1997 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jan 31, 2006
    Philly Burbs
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    $1.6 million over the last 2 years with 0 minutes...if he doesn't get on the field this season.
     
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  5. buzzkiller23

    buzzkiller23 Member+

    Jan 30, 2009
    Glenolden, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If they were good players (lololol) these wouldn't be terrible deals. The DP cap hit is only around $400k.
     
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  6. ericlfd

    ericlfd Member+

    Nov 28, 2011
    Philadelphia
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    He's never going to play again
     
  7. WVUPharm2007

    WVUPharm2007 Member+

    Jul 24, 2011
    Montgomery Township, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Consider over the years with M'Bolhi, Kleberson, Anderson...how much money has the Union pissed away on high pay guys that just sat around doing nothing? Incredible, really.
     
  8. mattylip

    mattylip Member+

    Philadelphia Union
    Jul 22, 2011
    Cherry Hill (127, D)
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Every team has high priced players that don't pan out. The Union are not unique in that regard. The Union probably are better off than other teams over the years because the Union tend to sign less high-priced players.

    Does anyone know whether there is disability insurance in MLS like there is in other sports? In other words, I have heard (but never confirmed) that an insurance company is paying Edu the difference between his cap hit and his DP salary because he is injured such that the net effect to the Union is zero (the league pays the base salary, not the Union) other than the insurance premiums.

    Does anyone have definitive information on this? @Boyertown2003 ?
     
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  9. Boyertown2003

    Boyertown2003 Member

    Jul 21, 2009
    Philadelphia
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I wish I knew, but could never confirm.

    I do know that Edu's first setback, the one from last winter, happened with independent trainers, not anyone related to the Union.

    That was something I originally had wrong.
     
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  10. Panuar

    Panuar Member

    Apr 25, 2015
    Oklahoma City OK
    Club:
    Gamba Osaka
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No idea if they carry insurance of that type, but it certainly would make sense to do so. It would also give an additional reason not to buy him out. No insurance would mean paying two salaries instead of one. (buyout plus new guy, since there isn't much reason to buyout if you aren't getting a replacement) With insurance it's two salaries instead of zero.

    I'll say I'm good with JS being a cheapskate in the either case, why pay when you don't have to, especially since one injured player shouldn't be breaking the team. While I'm sure it's contributing to their suckage, it's far from their worst of many worse problems.
     
  11. CITY&UNION

    CITY&UNION Member

    Oct 23, 2011
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    I'm super surprised by Gooch's salary. Good for him taking a paycut to get back playing. Bedoya, Simpson, Edu, Ilsinho all overpaid and that's $3 million that could be better spent elsewhere.

    I get your point but it's leaving the team hamstrung in the salary cap by flushing max salary dollars down the toilet
     
  12. thomas19064

    thomas19064 Member+

    Apr 29, 2008
    Delco
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    MONEYBALL
     
  13. Tyr

    Tyr Member+

    Nov 7, 2009
    Lawrenceville
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #63 Tyr, Apr 25, 2017
    Last edited by a moderator: Apr 27, 2017
    Juan Giego Gonzalez, Soumare, Vitoria, Valdes (to a degree), and perhaps Nikolov depending on his salary.

    I understand your sources have dried up, but is there any sense that a new DP will come in during the summer?
     
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  14. Phillyspur

    Phillyspur Member+

    Tottenham Hotspur
    England
    Mar 18, 2007
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    If there is insurance, it's another way this team monetizes the salary cap. Just like when Fred was a "player coach".
     
  15. CITY&UNION

    CITY&UNION Member

    Oct 23, 2011
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Maybe they're playing another form of moneyball where winning isn't the objective, and the objective is Sugarman maximizing his ROI while siphoning money off the league
     
  16. LimeTree

    LimeTree Member+

    Oct 22, 2007
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Haven't you guys ever watched Arrested Development? There's always money in the ball.
     
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  17. Starpork

    Starpork Member+

    Nov 12, 2013
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    That's sort of how I feel about the use of all that TAM on Jay Simpson. "Oh, it's the league's money? Then ******** it, go ahead."
     
  18. Dills

    Dills Moderator
    Staff Member

    Philadelphia Union
    United States
    Jun 6, 2006
    Southampton|PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not that there's even a snowball's chance in hell, but still ...

    http://www.kicker.de/news/fussball/...s-plaene-mit-selke-johannsson-und-europa.html
     
  19. SOwannaB

    SOwannaB Member

    Jun 29, 2010
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  20. thomas19064

    thomas19064 Member+

    Apr 29, 2008
    Delco
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    two strikers?!

    [​IMG]
     
  21. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Whatever you are smoking......can you give some to Curt & Earnie?
     
  22. Dills

    Dills Moderator
    Staff Member

    Philadelphia Union
    United States
    Jun 6, 2006
    Southampton|PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think Earnie must be disappointed in overall quality since leaving the Netherlands.

    [​IMG]
     
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  23. Dills

    Dills Moderator
    Staff Member

    Philadelphia Union
    United States
    Jun 6, 2006
    Southampton|PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    This window closes on Monday, May 8th. Next window opens two months later, on Monday, July 10th.

    What would you give up to acquire Houston's #1 spot in the allocation order?
     
  24. ericlfd

    ericlfd Member+

    Nov 28, 2011
    Philadelphia
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    I mean, yeah. But I can't see it as possible given how much were paying Jay Simpson, Cj and Davies
     
  25. unionrules

    unionrules Member

    Feb 21, 2012
    117
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Well, we gave Chicago a 1st to move up one spot for Bedoya so let's start with our 1st round pick in 2018. Oh, wait. We what? For who?
     

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