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I meant show for the US population rather than it being an actual deterrent to Syria.

 

Non-intervenionism as a goal itself is myopic. Sometimes, intervention is required.

I understand and respect the Obama doctrine. Never use force unless the US or one our allies face an existential threat. In general I agree with that, but I believe exceptions should be made for someone using WMDs or terror weapons on civilians.

 

Sean twitted about being under surveillance and promising to sue the gov. if he finds out the details...
He got a tweet from a SovietSergey, a dude using Sergey Lavrov is the current Russia foreign minister picture. The guys wrote : "I know DM me"(direct message).
He sent him a DM asking ".....what do you know about surveillance against me"
The guy responded: "Are you crazy? Do yuo think Deep State is reading your thoughts"?

The idiot is so paranoid and gullible.....

 

Tomahawk missiles at $1.5 mil per shot. Let's put America back to work.

 

You forgot the best part, Hannity responding: "Screw you, not funny."

 

What changed?

What changed is the guy they thought was going to change things didn't, the woman who was from the same party promised more of the same and some guy came along and promised he would change things... sure, he probably won't but then, she said she wouldn't either, so...

 

I am kind of perplexed by your persistence to pretend that the bombing last night was some sort of positive action. Sure Non interventionism can not be a blanket policy but interventionism just for the sake of it, w/out a clear plan and an end game is as frivolous as well. This masquerade last night was just that, a stupid show that does not change anything to the equation. It was a distraction for the rubes and for the chicken war hawks who may have got a boner over it. It was in the grand scheme of Syria pointless if not counter productive.

 

Totally disagree with that highlighted statement...That is misleading. Actually, a lot of things have changed, and for the better the last 8 years, even for those folks (white working classes/ rural America..).
Beyond that though, is your general point still, despite the evidences, that racism was not a major factor in Trump's election?

 

That's unfortunately been the standard for the modern day west.

 

More accurate to say that I hope it was a positive action. I acknowledge that it might not have been.

 

Some things have changed for the better, obviously but, for some, they've changed for the worse simply because of the continuing effects of automation, globalisation and their personal circumstances as they've got older and the skills they had simply aren't needed anymore.

I think part of the problem is that, in general, politicians tend to over-promise and under-deliver.

My point is that, in the current climate, if somebody comes along and promises 'steady as she goes', people will tend to think that's what they're going to get... more of the same... and if it hasn't worked for them so far that's not a very comforting thought, is it.

Er... WHAT???

So my specific statement that all racists would vote for the republicans didn't provide any clues a to whether I thought racists would vote for republicans???

Was I too subtle?

No, look... as I said, racists, (misogynists, xenophobes, etc. etc.), would tend to vote for the republicans and Hildawg didn't inspire other people enough... didn't indicate enough of a change to make it worth other people coming out to counteract that affect.

IOW DTH energised all the idiots and them, added to tribal republicans, overwhelmed the number of people on the other side.

There are lots of aspects to it but that's about as simple as I can put it for this election.

 

850340570551779328 is not a valid tweet id

 

1) I could not give a shit less if Iran gets nuclear weapons.
2) Who said that all of Syria's chemical weapons were removed? Let's look at actual quotes instead of making them up:

"We were able to find a solution that didn't necessitate the use of force that actually removed the chemical weapons that were known from Syria..." - Susan Rice

The bolded is a really important qualifier.

Every single article I could find making the claim that the Obama administration and friends said that all of Syria's chemical weapons were removed comes from right-wing rags that apparently don't have anyone on staff who can read a complete sentence.

 

Bullshit. That agreement was deoendent upon Russia ensuring the chemicals are gone. Iran is based on UN inspections.

This reflects poorly on Russia. Not the US.

 

That's not an actual policy.

 

Hey doesn't Ghyna needs Mideast earl as much or more than we do? They need to start being world policemen too. We need to get rid of non-essential military, spark up a doobie and watch someone else have all the fun over there.

 

It's a s SuperPac and he already signed up to run again. This is really a bad thing, even if he wasn't involved.

Nothing says I care about those Syrian babies like trying to raise money for your super PAC off of a dog and pony shit show. pic.twitter.com/95hhdEmqJJ

— Tara 🙏🇺🇦🙏 (@tgruka) April 7, 2017

 

I have a bad habit of reading posts before I look to see who posted them. Then I'll be in the middle of reading one and thinking "what the heck is this?" and then I look to see who the poster is and think, "Oh good, I can stop reading now."

 

This attack was also a bank-shot warning to the Uner as well as being a purely punitive strike against Assad, and justly so.

This should've happened 5 years ago, instead everyone patted themselves on the back because Assad "gave up all his chemical weapons without us using force."

 

I think this view is the flip side of people thinking bombing is too easy these days. Because maybe it looks like a light show in nice safe America, but I guarantee that being on the receiving end of this will send wheels spinning in Syria. They have to rethink the military administration that ok'd that gas attack. They have to rethink their conflicts with parties in the periphery of America's vision (like the Kurds and the Turks). And I'm sure they are raking the Russian envoy over the coals asking what good their friendship is and the guy will have to admit "yeah, we can shoot down 4 or 8. We are powerless against 50."

Syria has to maintain the appearance that nothing has changed, not as aggrandizement of the leader, but for the very survival of the state.

 

The bolded is also exactly why Obama's foreign policy was so feckless. It's a cop out.

It was how they walked back from the "redline" -- when they should've done what Trump just did.