Quarterly Quarrel - The Financial Discussion Part 5

They have been putting more and more pressure on British Police to crack down on Kodi box sales.

 

Nothing wrong with kodi box. The hacked ones with the streams are the issue. Software, not hardware.

 

Depends on the country.

In Canada for example, our big media outlets are going after Android box sellers. So far, the courts are agreeing with. About 50 resellers in our country have an injunction against them selling more boxes.

 

Pretty sure that isn't for sale of the device as is, but rather with "add ons" that offer free content.

 

You mean once they have Kodi loaded?

They are essentially illegal to sell in Canada now.
http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/business/android-box-free-tv-bell-rogers-1.4033741

 

No. Kodi isn't only for illegal streams. You can use it to play content you own.

 

It is like torrenting software.... the technology and software is completely legal. It is just certain applications of it aren't allowed.

If I could pay to watch every United match at a reasonable fee - I would. I believe most would as indicated by people now paying for musical content.

 

Unless you've named in the current legal action. Then you're on lockdown.

 

Not for selling kodi boxes for facilitating illegal streaming by selling hacked boxes or what have you.

 

I'm more surprised the guy mentioned in that article was getting people to pay 1000 pounds per box. You could get a fully cracked and loaded Amazon Fire Stick with a sports package for 150 bucks.

Given my lack of free time and the go90 app/NBCSN login I have from a friend, I don't currently have one, but I've often thought of picking one up.

 

You can buy an android tv box like the Mi Box for like $50 that's more powerful than the Amazon fire tv and can be loaded with Kodi in about 5 minutes using instructions off the internet.

As someone on here already said, Kodi itself isn't illegal. It's essential just a media center with networking capabilities. Kodi comes with add-ins that can be linked to servers using urls. It's those servers that contain the repositories that link to the illegal content.

The people selling the "Kodi Boxes" are smart enough to realize the common person isn't technologically savvy enough to understand how the free movies/tv shows are getting to their tv. So they buy a cheap streaming device, spend 5 minutes putting Kodi and loading Exodus or any one of the illegal stream add-ons on the device, and repackage it. Because the common person doesn't realize how easy or illegal this is, they pay the giant markup because they think they're getting something special. They aren't. Selling Kodi boxes shouldn't be illegal. Selling Kodi boxes with any repositories loaded should be.

 

Yup. It's such a high profit turnover for some of these people.

I'm going to buy a MI Box soon.

 

The Football Leaks group has been putting out some new information, I think they have a book coming out soon. Either way some of the 'leaks' they are claiming include that Raiola may end up making 41 million off the Pogba deal over the full life of the contract, and that Zlatan was on 360k a week.

 

Spot on. That is one of the reasons why I didn't get a Kodi, I am not willing to invest the time to figure out how this works.

I got a Roku device now, planning on using a FuboTV and see how that works.

Is there a way for Roku to add similar packages like the Kodi (Exodus) stuff?

 

I think there is but I'm sure it's not a straight forward work around. Roku devices don't have a Kodi app and because they aren't an actual OS, the architecture doesn't support any easy "rooting" method.

 

Ref: the thread title;

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co...r-united-transfers-ibrahimovic-pogba-13006687

According to the book, the pair's agent, Mino Raiola, made a whopping £41.39m from the two deals.

The superagent reportedly received £22.8m of Pogba's transfer fee and is due a further £16.39m in five separate installments.

 

Similar to third party ownership in the end

 

The rags / book also saying that Zlatan needed 4 more EPL starts to meet one of the conditions for the contract extension. Raises two points in my mind;

- might explain why he got so many game starts and lack of rotation

- makes me wondor if Teso was on a grassy knoll somewhere with a lazer pen or muscle emp gun or somesuch when the injury happened

 

Not to mention that this makes Pogba's fee closer to 109 million pounds.... 89 was the original fee including 21 to Raiola, but there will essentially be another 20 mill paid out to him over the next 5 years.

Zlatan making 367 a week is hardly surprising. For a no fee transfer especially. Although I imagine Raiola got paid on the backend of that deal as well as Mkhitaryan.

This ********ing guy.... I guess he's only maximizing the current system though.

 

How did you come to 109 sdot

 

Ok catching up on this story, the leak alleges that Raiola got paid the following
- 27m euros out of the 105m that we paid to Juve (3rd party ownership which everyone but ABUs knew about).
- 19.4m euros for acting as United's representative in the transfer
- 2.6m euros for acting as Pogba's representative in the transfer.

Now, the first of those amounts could be claimed to be Juve's cut to Raiola for promoting and selling Pogba at the highest price.

If true, that would mean Raiola was representing all 3 parties in the transfer which would be a serious breach of conflict of interest.

It would also mean United paid a total of 127m euros (or 106m pounds) for the transfer, while Juve received 78m euros (or 65m pounds) from it.

From our perspective, it is not that much of a surprise. We would have expected to pay ~10% or so in agent fees and commissions and the leak claims that number to be closer to 15%.

Good fodder for the media and ABUs in general. It is not as if RM didn't pay 10-15% to the agent on top of the Ronaldo and Bale fees. And Barca paid 50% on top to Neymar's dad (agent).