Honduras and Panama, here's the roster

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  1. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    #226 IndividualEleven, Mar 16, 2017
    Last edited: Mar 16, 2017
    --------------Wood----Altidore/Pulisic-----
    ------Nagbe--------------------------Pulisic/Bedoya---
    --------------Acosta-----------
    ---------------------------Bradley----
    ---Villafana----------------------------------MOF-----
    ----------------Brooks------Cameron-----
    -----------------------Howard----------

    Arena stated a preference for a dedicated d-mid, so a flat 442 would seem unlikely.

    If played at forward Pulisic would start from a deeper position than Altidore typically does.
     
  2. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    Wood is in very good form in the middle. Pulisic is in very good form wide. I'm not sure why Bruce moves them, but it's possible.

    Bruce has always liked a destroyer. I would have thought it would be Cam until the injuries/suspensions hit the back line.

    The backline is the most perplexing. Not sure what I'd do, moreless what Bruce will do.
     
  3. Bob Morocco

    Bob Morocco Member+

    Aug 11, 2003
    Billings, MT
    The last manager's selections were an abberation (abomination?). We did not run out an aesthetically pleasing attack in the past but our best front 6 from the '10 cycle would have been: Altidore, Davies, Dempsey, Donovan, Holden, and Bradley. Best front 6 from '06: McBride, Donovan, Dempsey, Beasley, Reyna, Mastroeni. '02 had options and one is: McBride, Donovan, Stewart, Beasley, Reyna, O'Brien. Compare that to '14 with: Altidore, Dempsey, Bedoya, Jones, Bradley, Beckerman. Does anything jump out to anyone?

    This:
    -------Altidore----Wood-------
    --Johnson-------------Pulisic--
    --------------Nagbe-------------
    -------------Bradley-------------

    Is much more in line with our traditional attacking/two-way/defensive balance and like is usually the case an injury has ruined it.
     
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  4. Bob Morocco

    Bob Morocco Member+

    Aug 11, 2003
    Billings, MT
    Wood is alternating time in either a 2 FW (sometimes in the form of a diamond) or 1 FW system, always as a FW. HSV rarely carry the play and he is mostly hitting on the break, there hasn't been a lot of combination play but now at least they are stringing some passes together on the move and attacking with trailing runners. I don't think he should play anywhere other than FW because that is by far where he is strongest.

    Pulisic has, most recently, been playing RAM on a 2 line behind Auba, at RWB, and at RM in a 4-1-4-1. I think he has had the biggest impact in that free RAM role, he's pretty good at RM, and he does the work at RWB but it's obviously a waste for our purposes. With FJ gone that opens up LM, where I think he is a little better because he can cut in and shoot, but CAM or SS aren't that far away from RAM in a trident. Again I look to what he can and can't do as a player and that makes him, as BVB has shown, more versatile.
     
  5. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    Is FJ out for sure?
     
  6. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    One of the US's biggest problems lately is that our best players are injured. A lot. Brooks, Altidore, Johnson, Dempsey, Cameron, Yedlin etc. I don't remember a time when so many of the top players are injured so often. That has really hampered continuity and it surely doesn't help to constantly miss the best players. May say a prayer for CP to stay healthy.
     
  7. tbonepat11

    tbonepat11 Member+

    Jun 21, 2001
    Technically we still do have CD. :)

    These 2 matches are going to be a grind. I don't really expect away concacaf matches to be pretty even under ideal conditions. A blowout at home and a tough 1-0 away would leave me very happy.
     
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  8. tbonepat11

    tbonepat11 Member+

    Jun 21, 2001

    And that is the main difference between the USA and the big boys....depth. Reus can be injured and Germany still wins the World Cup. If Messi doesn't play I argue Argentina is actually a better team. Portugal with Ronaldo at the Euros.

    Everyone deals with injuries...except Leicester City last year which was an act of God.
     
  9. Guinho

    Guinho Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes, bless their hearts
    Estonia
    May 27, 2001
    San Francisco, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  10. scott47a

    scott47a Member+

    Seattle Sounders FC; Arsenal FC
    Feb 6, 2007
    Austin, Texas
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is not the kind of thinking that gets you a head coaching job.

    Bruce needs to identify weaknesses and make sure they are covered. Bradley is not a true defensive midfielder and thus Bruce is bound to give him cover.
     
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  11. scott47a

    scott47a Member+

    Seattle Sounders FC; Arsenal FC
    Feb 6, 2007
    Austin, Texas
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If Fabian is out then you have to think Nagbe starts.
     
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  12. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
    Tarpon Springs, FL
    Club:
    Jorge Wilstermann
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    Hmm. Sometimes you only have one of a very special player. Argentina with Di Maria would have won that WC. The gauchos had the right idea. Break the high press with skillful dribbling. Unfortunately, they didn't have Di Maria to really hit that that space behind the press with speed. Meanwhile, Germany without Neuer would have lost. He's what allows them to press so high.
     
  13. sXeWesley

    sXeWesley Member+

    Jun 18, 2007
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hogwash. It is the exact thinking that got Bruce the job! Bruce specifically got the head coaching job because he is the guy that puts specific players in specific roles and asks them to do a job. What was one of the first damn things he said when he got the job?

    BRADLEY IS A #6, WANTS A DEDICATED D-MID AND MORE ATTACKING PARTNER

    http://www.starsandstripesfc.com/20...s-his-way-teamwork-and-a-whole-lot-of-players

    ✔@DougMacESPN
    Big takeaways from Bruce Arena roundtable: sees Michael Bradley as a No. 6 ; said Jermaine Jones, 35, "still has something to offer" #usmnt

    I am so god damn tired of the moving goal posts for Michael Bradley. This team has got to move on from supposedly playing two #8's, which in reality means no one properly does either job of attacking or defending. Again:

     
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  14. comoesa

    comoesa Member+

    Aug 13, 2010
    Christen Press's armpit
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Between Ream, Villafana, and Beasely I'm not especially worried about LB.

    I would take Cameron at RB over MOF.
     
  15. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It becomes would you rather see MOF at right back or Omar/Zim at center back. It's bad luck to have so many important players injured when two such important games come up. A great test for those left though. This is how you break through to being a starter for a while.
     
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  16. cpwilson80

    cpwilson80 Member+

    Mar 20, 2001
    Boston
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    A quick contextual chart - the roster broken out by WCQ and all other caps:

    [​IMG]

    I need to look at this with Gold Cup appearances as well, but at first glance, I was pleasantly surprised with the amount of CONCACAF experience. For the most experienced guys, WCQs are 25% to 33% of their caps.
     
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  17. deuteronomy

    deuteronomy Member+

    Angkor Siem Reap FC
    United States
    Aug 12, 2008
    at the pitch
    Club:
    Siem Reap Angkor FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  18. skim172

    skim172 Member+

    Feb 20, 2013
    Zusi?

    All right. o_O
     
  19. sXeWesley

    sXeWesley Member+

    Jun 18, 2007
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  20. Mahtzo1

    Mahtzo1 Member+

    Jan 15, 2007
    So Cal
  21. napper

    napper Member+

    Jan 14, 2014
    Fullerton
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  22. Eleven Bravo

    Eleven Bravo Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    Jul 3, 2004
    SC
    Club:
    Atlanta Silverbacks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Why is it that when we have an injury crisis, it always seems to be key players + all of our depth at that position.
     
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  23. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    Nagbe has played wide midfield and a-mid(4231). He has rarely played in a 2-man central midfield or as a deep mid in a 4231.
     
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  24. Susaeta

    Susaeta BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 3, 2009
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Arena gonna Klinsmann.
     
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  25. Marko72

    Marko72 Member+

    Aug 30, 2005
    New York
    So it would seem...
     

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