Trump :: The Presidency - Part Deux (Electric Boogaloo)

1. Clinton was vulnerable in big part because the continuous assailment by the conservatives for 25 years.
2. The media treated her emails as something more than a nothingburger. This was no exception.
3. It boiled down to less than 100k voters staying home in 3 states more misogynistic than average.

 

Yeah, boloni has some weird blind spot when it comes to Hillary. I mean, who lived through the campaign and could write this?

 

World's Greatest Healthcare bill. Literally they called it that.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/1275

Speechless!

 

.@VP Pence demands apology from @AP for publishing wife's private email address. https://t.co/RCMDnUBj3Q pic.twitter.com/SBiyHDyQQf

— Fox News (@FoxNews) March 5, 2017

The AP "apologized".

My shock is that she still used an email that was likely compromised to begin with.

 

Isn't the real story about Hildawg that she was even in a close fight with DTH. A decent candidate would/should have been light years ahead of the guy.

 

I love the tie.

 

American Exceptionalism

 

Oh goodie, let's re-fight the election again.

 

Just look at the National Enquirer (circulation 100 million in Wingnuttia) headlines the past year. They had Hillary killing Bill...twice, leading a horde of alien zombies in an attack on earth and having twins with Batboy.

 

Fixed your post. No female in America would have done any better than Hillary did. Almost anybody qualified, for example Elizabeth Warren, would have done worse.

This was never about Hillary Clinton, specifically. Any female was going to be portrayed and treated as a scheming bitch. Any man with exactly the same personality and history was going to be treated as a smart, tough winner. This campaign oozed with misogyny. It sweated misogyny.

 

I actually came across this article on how NYU reenacted the debates but switched sexes. Surprisingly people still had a negative opinion of Hillary as a man and actually felt like they better understood why Trump won.

LINK

surprised me

 

I actually just deleted a bunch of pics from my phone of these. I currently live in S Florida. The supermarkets here, Publix, have magazine stands at every counter. The National Enquirer is one of those magazines displayed. I have no idea how many people shop there but it is al;ways full. I can only imagine the number of "hits" it gets just by people making eye contact wondering if there is any truth to any of it. A quick google search shows some of their front pages.

 

Out of curiosity, where exactly in So.Flo.?

And can you imagine the amount of clicks they get in their website that then share with all their relatives and acquaintances..?

 

See!!!! You have no credibitity. Leading zombies and cohabitating with Batboy has to be a Weekly World News story not National Enquierer.

 

That's pretty interesting, but it's also a little disingenuous, I mean things like this: "I was particularly struck by the post-performance discussions about effeminacy. People felt that the male version of Clinton was feminine, and that that was bad." Well duh he seemed effeminate, he was emulating a woman! When you have actors attempting to mimic the lifelong mannerisms of a woman (albeit not the most effeminate one by societal standards) and a man (who is almost a caricature of a certain kind of manly man), the results are going to be very different than if you had an ACTUAL man/woman competing against the other person.

To spell it out even more: you had a man attempting to imitate a woman who had developed mannerisms based on living her entire life as a woman in a male-dominated field, and you had a woman attempting to imitate a man who has the easy confidence of a man who has had everything his entire life, including a penis. Their entire self-presentations are rooted in the fact of their maleness and femaleness.

 

It works, when the political opposite says the paper would be respected as a source and indirectly uses as a reason for a political position.

I remember the Simpsons of the 90s constantly making fun of the national enquirer as a news source.

 

C'mon - Trumpilstilskins knew that if Obamacare was repealed they would always have the good ol' ACA to fall back on.

 

Just a tad bit N of West Palm in a town called Stuart.

Yup. So the right can say that the center and the left have the Daily Show, John Olivers and the Bill Mahers - but people can choose not to view those shows because it goes against their values. Can you imagine the billboard traffic this get just by being displayed here:




You cannot beat that kind of free marketing.

 

I know the area, my brother lived there for a few years, pre-2008. Very Red Neck. Hell for Miamians.

Yup. And you see it twice a week, all your adult life. Who cares what they show in TV channels that I don't even get.

 

Yeah, it gets "worse" the farther north you go, like Pt St Lucie and Ft Pierce but not at all uncommon to see the hiked up pick-up trucks with Trump sticker on them with a confederate flag for a front license plate.

 

That is a good point and one I didn't really consider. That portion about effeminacy struck me more about what the public expects/want from their male role models, leaders, and just in general. For me still though the major take away from the piece/experiment was that my personal fears of how Hillary would be treated and how she should act in the debates; I felt that she should never stump to his challenges or get overly confrontational out of fear being called a bi^^h, actually may have hurt her, was wrong. That maybe Hillary should have come out more sill certain and ready to prove herself.

It then got me wondering and wishing to go back to Obama/Clinton primaries, specifically when Hillary teared up. I do wonder how much of that moment, how it was treated in a negative light by the public (I am guilty of that), played in how she presented herself this time around.

edited: cause, what was I trying to say.

 

Hmmm... nah. I don't think that's true. I think that's just something people say now after the event to make themselves feel better. Didn't he win something like 55% of white women? It was only among non-white women he did badly so race looks to be more of a factor.

I think, if you wanted to have a candidate of the 'old guard', you couldn't do better than her whereas Warren at least seemed modern with some fresh ideas, even if she'd turned out to be just as bad in practice.

Of course, we'll never know for sure but I think the simple 'misogyny' meme is emblematic of the type of analysis that led to the loss in the first place.

 

http://video.foxnews.com/v/5351466746001

I don't normally watch FOX but this link came across my feed and I thought the premise was interesting. Hannity, and therefore the rest of the Republicans that support Trump, are throwing the idea out that Trump is being targeted for no other reason than that he is a political outsider and the establishment on both sides are working with the intelligence community to undermine and destroy Trump to maintain their political structures, something Trump is trying to reform. Although the video mostly goes toward blaming the Democrats, it also throws shade at Republicans that aren't supporting Trump.

This is dangerous on a bunch of levels, and this is really the first time I had a feeling that our current system of government may not be able to survive in it's current form regardless of the video being correct or not.

If the idea that the powers that be in government, like the CIA, have the ability to destroy a properly elected President, that's a problem.

If the video is way off and none of this is true at all but a large percentage of the population believes it, it will have almost the same effect.

I'm a little concerned for the first time.