What's the latest news regarding the Fire Academy?

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  1. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
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    True.
    However, tearing down a storied franchise is surprisingly easy.

    Just ask Mr. Andrew Hauptman.
     
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  2. Pennsylvania Dave

    Jul 31, 2012
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  3. VolklP19

    VolklP19 Member+

    Jun 23, 2010
    Illinois
    Time to call Dave Richardson?
     
  4. FrenFan

    FrenFan Member

    Jul 16, 2010
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    Been what, five days since this post and Jeff Krause's article and not a peep from the Fire.

    Usually Khosla and Hicks are out there on Twitter making fools of themselves trying to deny and discredit.

    No ground to stand on here.
     
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  5. ionprovisioner

    Nov 23, 2003
    Flint, Michigan
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    Chicago Fire
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    United States
    Andell's kill-off-intelligent-interest quest is finally, finally getting there.
     
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  6. Only quicksand.
     
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  7. I'm the cockroach/raccoon in the machine.
     
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  8. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
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    Only because it seems relevant and is one of the great songs of all time, although an almost unwatchable video


     
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  9. LIZZIE

    LIZZIE BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 18, 2001
    Sec 126
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    United States
    Racc cockroach.jpg
     
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  10. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
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    United States
    http://www.topdrawersoccer.com/the91stminute/2017/03/nine-mls-clubs-told-grant-wahl-how-much-they-spend-on-their-academies/

    Pulled from each individual questionnaire, here’s the ranked list of the nine who submitted figures on how much they spent in 2016 on their respective academy setups.

    New England Revolution: $1 million
    D.C. United: $1.5 million
    Montreal Impact: $1.5 million
    Chicago Fire: $1.75 million
    Columbus Crew: $2.5 million
    FC Dallas: $3 million
    Portland Timbers: $3 million
    LA Galaxy: $4 million
    Philadelphia Union: $4 million
     
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  11. Alternative facts re: Andell Inc. youth investment level.
     
  12. firefan2001

    firefan2001 Member+

    Dec 27, 2000
    Oswego, Illinois
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    United States
    Since they lie just about everything, I'd say that the $1.75 number is also a lie.
     
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  13. lncolnpk

    lncolnpk Member+

    Mar 5, 2012
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    Chicago Fire
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    United States
    When cares what they spend when they take a $500 per player cut from the Juniors program,
     
  14. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
    And won't buy lights for the practice/training field.
     
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  15. loonixxx

    loonixxx Member+

    Chicago Red Stars
    Aug 28, 2004
    Soccer Limbo
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    Jagiellonia Bialystok SSA
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    United States
    We have a MLS -1.0 owner.
     
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  16. That the club STILL doesn't own.
     
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  17. FrenFan

    FrenFan Member

    Jul 16, 2010
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    They're also grandfathering in the large sum of investment John Dorn was putting in that's no longer there because Nelson Rodriguez is an incompetent narcissist.
     
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  18. splunge63

    splunge63 Member+

    Mar 30, 2014
    west burbs
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    Anyone wondering why Sunderland left?
     
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  19. splunge63

    splunge63 Member+

    Mar 30, 2014
    west burbs
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    It wasn't because of lack of talent (even with 3 Academy clubs in town).
     
  20. 4door

    4door Member+

    Mar 7, 2006
    Chicago
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    Chicago Fire
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    United States
    Exactly. If I'm wrong please let me know, but to me it seems like the entire youth program is for profit. Sparks/Juniors are all pay to play (up to 2k+ a year) throw in camps and licensing the name to all of these clubs. I know there is financial assistance, but they claim to have 10,000+ players in their system. The only kids on a full scholarship are academy players and thats the 1% of players in the whole system.

    I don't doubt that the youth program expenses are probably 1.75M, but what is their revenue?
     
  21. splunge63

    splunge63 Member+

    Mar 30, 2014
    west burbs
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Not youth program expenses. It's what MLS clubs are spending on their Academy program. I don't doubt the Fire spent ~1.75M/per when Dorn was involved. Be interesting to see what this year's number is.

    Compare and contrast the MLS Academies' training facilities. The Fire's is the worst, hands down.
     
  22. 4door

    4door Member+

    Mar 7, 2006
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    But Fire youth soccer has revenue (juniors/camps/licensing the club name). What I'm saying is that if you were to look at the total profit/loss of Chicago Fire youth soccer when you include academies + the pay to play, how much is actually coming out of Andy's pocket? Does pay to play totally fund the academy, or is Andy actually investing 1.75M of his own money in each year?
     
  23. splunge63

    splunge63 Member+

    Mar 30, 2014
    west burbs
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    No way of knowing, without access to the books. Suffice it to say, 10,000 youth players at $500/per is $5M/yr. Fire operations probably easily generates enough dough to fund the Academy w/o Cakes having to dip into his pockets.
     
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  24. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
    10,000 paid players
    $2,000 a year

    Total revenue?
     

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