News: Chargers Move to LA, crash on Galaxy's couch.

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by DoyleG, Jan 12, 2017.

  1. Ghost

    Ghost Member+

    Sep 5, 2001
    Well, let's look at it this way. These cities have lost teams are about to:

    1. St. Louis
    2. Oakland
    3. San Diego.

    These cities/teams have frequent rumbling about moving:
    1. Buffalo
    2. Jacksonville

    Then there are a handful of cities that are small but seem more or less stable:
    1. New Orleans
    2. Cincinnati
    3. Kansas City
    (I'm leaving out Green Bay, obviously. That's a special case.)

    Now Los Angeles has lost two teams in recent memory and the Rams are already playing to half-full stadiums. So it's a big question whether one team can sustain itself there in the long term, much less moving in a second team. If LA is just a pit stop for the Chargers, where do they go? And generally speaking where are these teams going to move.

    So basically you have five teams that don't have a stable homes: Bills, Rams, Chargers, Raiders, Jags. Then a few in places that you wouldn't put them but that are OK for now.

    Meanwhile, if those teams did move, where would they go that are clear major league markets? Maybe Orlando. But for the most part, you keep hearing about expansion/relocation outside the United States: Toronto, London, Mexico City.

    Of the expansion cities MLS is talking about, I would say only Detroit, Tampa and Miami are clear major league cities, and Tampa and Miami are not really strong sports towns, ahnd MLS has contracted there already. The rest are in the sort of borderline places that the NFL is having trouble in or that are just outside the major league bubble.
     
  2. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 28, 2004
    san jose
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    San Jose Earthquakes
  3. Salvatore Giuseppe

    May 4, 2012
    Club:
    Chicago

    The Jags aren't unstable
    The Bills aren't unstable
    The Rams found a new home already
    The Chargers have announced that they found a new home
    The Raiders have announced that they found a new home.
     
  4. dredgfan

    dredgfan Member+

    MLS
    Nov 5, 2004
    Denver or NOLA
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    NOLA and KC are top 10 fan adds last 10 years. Lol.
     
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  5. PTFC in KCMO

    PTFC in KCMO Member+

    Aug 12, 2012
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    The Chiefs will NEVER leave Kansas City.


    EVER.
     
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  6. soccermilitant

    soccermilitant Member+

    Jan 14, 2009
    St.paul
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    KC and NOLA just renovated there stadium and Cincinnati has a new(ish) stadium.
     
  7. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    And the Raiders have never been unstable in Oakland, and they weren't unstable in Los Angeles. The moves were all down to ownership looking for even more money.
     
  8. Eric B

    Eric B Member

    Feb 21, 2000
    the LBC
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Probably because Las Vegas is not just a "city of hotel workers"...
     
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  9. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
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    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
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    United States
    Her teacher should have let them watch The Ten Commandments.

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    "I'll give you my staff when you take it from my cold, dead hands, you damn dirty Pharaoh, God damn you, God damn you all to hell!!" - Cecil 19:56

    Anyone wanting to understand the events of the Bible in a historical context should watch this
     
  10. Ismitje

    Ismitje Super Moderator

    Dec 30, 2000
    The Palouse
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They definitely would not be admitted, but not for the reason you cite. All Pac-12 schools including the land grant institutions in the conference are rated in the top tier - R1/Doctoral Universities with Highest Research Activity - by the agency charged with assessing such things, the Carnegie Foundation. There aren't a lot of FCS-level, football-playing R1 schools left in the West that aren't already in the Pac-12.

    OSU and WSU are in locations too isolated, too rural, too devoid of television-eyes, and possessed of too few alumni to make what the cut would be today. You'd have OU and UW as travel partners (for away games in sports with multiple games in a week) rather than OU/OSU and UW/WSU.

    Colorado State and UNM are R1, as are many of the Texas schools.
     
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  11. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    What is this talk of the rams playing to a half empty stadium? They averaged 83k which is higher than the capacity of their under construction stadium. If they don't price too outrageously in inglewood they'll sell out every game.
     
  12. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Most of the complaints I've seen is related to butts in seats and pictures that have circulated of the last few games of the season where the seats were clearly visible throught the stadium.

    Obviously the team sucked, but LA hasn't had an NFL team for 20 years and is the NFL's second largest market. The expectation was that the LA market was so hungry for live NFL that they'd sellout every game regardless of how well the team played. That ended up not being the case.
     
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  13. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
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    They also play in Los Angeles in a stadium without a real parking lot. We're not used to taking trains to sporting events.
     
  14. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Back in 2011 or 2012 - I forget, the Media Mixer for MLS Cup was downtown a few blocks from LA Live. Another photographer and I got the shuttle to the airport, then the shuttle from the airport out to the subway.

    We didn't want to drink and drive and Uber hadn't really caught on, so we figured out how to get their by train.

    Most of the locals we talked to couldn't believe we'd taken the subway. One didn't even know LA had a subway system.
     
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  15. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    Yeah, that situation is changing, but it hasn't changed yet. We're still a drive first city.
     
  16. athletics68

    athletics68 Member+

    Dec 12, 2006
    San Diego & San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Actually the Raiders have been unstable in Oakland since they day they got back from LA
     
  17. DoyleG

    DoyleG Member+

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    Canada
    Jan 11, 2002
    YEG-->YYJ-->YWG-->YYB
    Club:
    FC Edmonton
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    This is what people think of Subways when it comes to LA.

     
  18. Salvatore Giuseppe

    May 4, 2012
    Club:
    Chicago
    I'm skeptical that even the Chargers will ultimately have issues filling the stadium. LA can say they don't want them all they want, but ultimately, they only need to convince about a half of a percent of the LA metro area to come to a game 8 weeks a year. And thats not accounting for any traveling fans.
     
  19. AlbertCamus

    AlbertCamus Member+

    Colorado Rapids
    Sep 2, 2005
    Colorado, USA
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    Colorado Rapids
    When we were in the Big12/8, we were notoriously edged in a friendly part of the world. Think out-of-state wealthy Californians and East coasters verse Nebraska/Kansas/Iowans, etc...
     
  20. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    "edged"? What does that mean?
     
  21. AlbertCamus

    AlbertCamus Member+

    Colorado Rapids
    Sep 2, 2005
    Colorado, USA
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Unfriendly.
     
  22. ElJefe

    ElJefe Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 16, 1999
    Colorful Colorado
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I attended three out of Texas' Big 12 Championship Game appearances: 1996 vs. Nebraska in St. Louis, 2001 vs. CU in Irving, and 2005 vs. CU in Houston.

    By far, the worst was the 2001 game. The CU fans in the house were assholes from the opening kickoff until after the final gun and were starting fights in the parking lot after the game. This was in marked contrast to the NU fans who were pretty darn nice to us, even though our 7-4 team had just crushed their national championship hopes. And after what happened in 2001, watching Texas bludgeon CU 70-3 in 2005 was especially satisfying.

    Buff fans are the worst. But what else do you expect from a school whose student body is made up partially of the idiot fourth children of the world's elite?
     
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  23. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Colorado, huh. What's your major? Bituminous or Anthracite?
     
  24. AlbertCamus

    AlbertCamus Member+

    Colorado Rapids
    Sep 2, 2005
    Colorado, USA
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Not sure where you're going with this, if you think Texas students aren't children of the elite you're kidding yourself. It's good you never played Duke!

    I go to games in Boulder, admittedly the traveling crowd might be more hardcore.
     
  25. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    But the Texas children aren't the "fourth children". I think you missed that part.
     

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