Trump :: The Presidency

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  1. Deadtigers

    Deadtigers Member+

    Jul 23, 2015
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    Shut your filthy pinhole, they were their own band not his back-up band. It was when they joined that Prince got top billing. Like the E street band!
     
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  2. luftmensch

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    Petaluma
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    Maybe that's what REALLY happened to @Auriaprottu....
     
  3. jmartin1966

    jmartin1966 Member+

    Jun 13, 2004
    Chicago
    all but a small minority of seats are safe thanks to gerrymandering
     
  4. Moishe

    Moishe Moderator
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    Mar 6, 2005
    Here there and everywhere.
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    Prince had four albums before the Revolution were officially given billing as his band. They weren't even actually called the Revolution for a while. The E street band was the E street band from day one.
     
  5. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    Neither worthy to even sniff Levon's beard

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  6. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
    Shropshire
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    You say that, but...

    http://time.com/3576090/midterm-elections-turnout-world-war-two/

    The last time voter turnout for a national election was as low as it was on Nov.4, Hitler was still in power, and Mitch McConnell was only nine months old.

    Only 36.4% of eligible voters voted in this year’s midterm elections, down from 40.9% who voted in 2010...

    If he starts to do half the stuff people are afraid of, we might be looking at a HUGE boost in turnout to try and get the GOP out AND a massive drop-off in people prepared to try and keep them IN.
     
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  7. Boloni86

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    I posted this in another thread last night, but Republicans hold 40 of the 60 most competitive districts in the country. The districts that they're defending are overwhelmingly in blue and purple states like New York, Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin .... The competitive districts that Democrats are hanging on to are in friendly territory like Oregon, New Hampshire, California and Arizona.

    In other words the battleground is not in red states. It's in suburban areas of purple/blue states. If the sitting president remains unpopular, it will reflect in those areas.
     
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  8. Transparent_Human

    Oct 15, 2006
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    I can't believe that we are being gaslit on such a scale. It seems so transparent, but the thing is gas lighting generally works, thats why people do it. Give it months.
     
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  9. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
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    STATE LEGISLATURES, DAMMIT
     
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  10. Boloni86

    Boloni86 Member+

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    That too ...
     
  11. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
    There Be Dragons Here
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    State governments have about half the budget (combined) as the feds. They control elections. They control redistricting. They control water quality. They manage job growth. And we need a ton more if we're going to start undoing Trump's legacy in 2019.
     
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  12. NGV

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    Sep 14, 1999
    State legislatures are really important (and especially so before redistricting), but the House is the biggest prize in 2018.

    If the Democrats somehow capture either house of Congress , the Trump administration is probably finished for all intents and purposes. I don't see any way he could cope with an opposition legislature with subpoena powers. Still a very long shot for the Dems, but who knows how things will look in a year or so.
     
  13. Cris 09

    Cris 09 Trololololo

    Nov 30, 2004
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    SNL tearing it up right now!
     
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  14. Boloni86

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    If the Dems aren't in it to win it in '18, they're useless. These are some of the seats they should be targeting. These were mostly Obama areas in '08 and '12 ... and ultimately Trump in '16. Most of these districts are over 70% white, primarily suburbs and mid size towns. This is why I was rooting for Tim Ryan as minority leader and Tom Perez at DNC. This is the only path forward for growth for Democratic party. They already hold all the urban and diverse districts.

    Colorado # 6 : Denver suburbs ... Aurora, Centennial
    Illinois # 12 : East St. Louis and points South
    Illinois # 13 : East St. Louis and points north to Springfield
    Iowa # 3 : All of Des Moines to the Omaha suburbs
    Maine # 2 : Northern Maine
    Michigan # 6 : Kalamazoo
    Michigan # 7 : South Detroit suburbs including parts of Ann Arbor
    Michigan # 8 : West Detroit suburbs all the way to Lansing
    New Jersey # 2 : South Jersey - Atlantic City
    New Jersey # 3 : Burlington County, Ocean County
    New York # 1 : Long Island - East
    New York # 2 : Long Island - Central (Peter King)
    New York # 11 : Staten Island
    New York # 19 : South Albany suburbs to Poughkeepsie and Oneonta
    New York # 21 : North Albany suburbs to Canada border
    New York # 22 : Utica
    New York # 23 : Ithaca to Lake Erie
    Ohio # 10 : Dayton
    Pennsylvania # 6 : Reading suburbs
    Pennsylvania # 7 : West Philly suburbs to Reading outskirts
    Pennsylvania # 8 : North Philly suburbs to Allentown
    Pennsylvania # 15 : Allentown to Harrisburg suburbs
    Texas # 23 : Border region from San Antonio suburbs to El Paso suburbs
    Virginia # 10 : West DC suburbs to Winchester
    Washington # 3 : Olympia to Oregon border
    Washington # 8 : Central Washington
    Wisconsin # 1 : South Milwaukee suburbs to Illinois border
    Wisconsin # 7 : Northern Wisconsin
    Wisconsin # 8 : Green Bay
     
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  15. Deadtigers

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    Repped for the Ryan and Perez combo. Fresh blood from a swing state and a guy that has won and knows how to win (plus Buffalo baby!)
     
  16. ElJefe

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    I'm wonder if CO-6 is fool's gold. Every two years, the conventional wisdom is that Mike Coffman is vulnerable because he's a Republican congressman from a district that was made more diverse in the 2010 redistricting, leans Democratic, and votes Democratic. And every two years, he shows that Rasputin's got nothing on him.

    Part of the reason is that he's responded to representing a purple district by breaking with other Congressional Republicans on immigration, social issues, and voting rights. He also ran hard against Trump in the 2016 election. In other words, he's responded to representing a purple district by becoming more purple.

    Most local pundits thought that if the Dems had a chance to unseat Coffman, it was going to be 2016, when the Republicans supposedly had a bad candidate at the top of their ticket. And Coffman won 51-43.
     
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  17. Deadtigers

    Deadtigers Member+

    Jul 23, 2015
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    NY 11 is that dirtbag Dan Donovan and Staten is the reddest Boro in NYC, impossible to flip. Send money elsewhere. The best time to flip was when Donovan was running but the party decided to send money elsewhere
     
  18. Boloni86

    Boloni86 Member+

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    This is all true in several other districts. Which is why it's critical that there be some form of a national wave. Not a tsunami. But something measurable.
     
  19. riverplate

    riverplate Member+

    Jan 1, 2003
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    You seriously think Staten Island or Peter King's seat are up for grabs? Keep dreaming.
     
  20. NGV

    NGV Member+

    Sep 14, 1999
    Clinton won that district over Trump, though - by nine points.

    There, as in the other 20+ Congressional districts that were won by both Clinton and by a GOP House candidate, I suspect that a fair number of those ticket-splitters might have believed they were supporting Republican representatives to create a check on President Clinton. That's not going to apply in 2018, of course.
     
  21. ElJefe

    ElJefe Moderator
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    True. But Coffman has been smart enough to put enough daylight between himself and the national party over the past several years that he's been able to get enough people in his district to vote for him while they voted for Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton. This, BTW, is a pretty impressive feat, considering that he said some birther crap about Obama during that time.
     
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  22. NGV

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    Sep 14, 1999
    Putting daylight between himself and President Trump will be potentially hazardous.
     
  23. MatthausSammer

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    How so? He's not really a big enough target to be worthy of Trump's attention.
     
  24. ElJefe

    ElJefe Moderator
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    Feb 16, 1999
    Colorful Colorado
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    I'm interested to see what happens with healthcare. His whole slipping-out-the-backdoor stunt at a public forum when he was getting a lot of negative feedback about his repeal vote is going to help his 2018 opponent, and I suspect that he's one of the one of the congresspeople who'll pay a price if "repeal and replace" isn't done right, and if "repeal and replace" doesn't look like it'll be just right, I suspect that he'll be revolting on Paul Ryan and Donald Trump.
     
  25. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
    Dave Weigel. Slate.

    Though he says 2007.

    This is not the first time we've been over this.
     

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