I think you're confusing Oakland and England. They've been counting the seats in Orlando http://www.orlandocitysc.com/post/2017/01/06/counting-25500-seats
Thanks for leading me down a giant rabbit hole of trying to figure out when a game was played at Stamford Bridge (the stadium) for 10 minutes before I noticed my typo....
I don't know about you but when I'm at a match I'm actually paying attention to the action on the field, not the outside...
I'm pretty sure Bubba knows what he's talking about with regards to Seattle and CenturyLink. Was just poking him a bit. There's even a thread or ten about this very subject somewhere around these parts.
Why is there a problem with football sightlines? Is it that they face the center of the field rather than look straight down the touchlines? Atlanta is supposed to be designed for football and soccer but I can't see how you're going to see the nearest goal from the corner sections without standing up.
I believe some of this was supposed to be remedied with retractable sections, but what does the Superdome have to do with this? Football fields are smaller than soccer fields. The seating is normally designed for views several more yards away.
You mention Atlanta and then link a picture of New Orleans' stadium which definitely wasn't designed for soccer back in the 70s. Confusing.
The picture was based on a battle a year before the Battle of Stamford Bridge when northern rebels successfully ousted Tostig as Earl of Northumbrian, after he'd increased taxes to pay for his wars in Wales and had murdered several members of leading families. He was also a southerner and Northumbrians still don't like them. Tostig was the brother of King Harold and had married to Eleanor of Normandy, who's illegitimate brother was William the Conqueror, so members Harold and William's families were in-laws. In 1864 Harold was shipwrecked off the coast of Normandy and became a guest of William, who claimed (incorrectly?) that Harold had conceded his right to become the English King. This is portrayed in the Bayeaux tapestry. It was Harold's accession to the throne in January 1066 that prompted William to invade. Harold had supported the uprising against his brother who contacted King Harald Hardrada of Norway and persuaded him to invade England. King Harold's response was so great and so swift that they were easily able to repel the invasion at the Battle of Stamford Bridge. His brother Tostig was killed. Harold's forces had still not recovered when William invaded England 18 days later. Harold was forced to rush south to try and repel William but as a result of Stamford Bridge his forces were depleted and outnumbered. The vast majority of Harold's men were on foot whereas half of William's forces were mounted. When the initial Norman attack failed, as the English were in the hills out of range of Norman archers, they pretended to flee luring the English and Welsh forces into a trap. After Harold was killed his men turned and ran and William subsequently became the English King. The Normans were descended from Vikings who were ceded land in northern France on condition they stopped raiding coastal towns. They spoke a version of French heavily influenced by native Viking languages, which explains why many English words are different to classic French. Norman French, subsequently Anglo-French, became the language of the English court, while poorer people in the north spoke Anglo-Saxon. This explains why the names of expensive cuts of meat (at the time),such as ham, pork beef and and trotters (feet) are derived from French and cheaper cuts of meat, such as bacon and chicken are similar to German. English - Norman - French fashion - faichon - façon cabbage - caboche - chou wicket - viquet - guichet catch - cachier - chaussée war - werre - guerre cater - acater - acheter Oh yes, in all three battles Harold's men were the chargers and all the battles were fought in the Milky Way Galaxy at: - York City (Conference Premier - level 5) who share a stadium with a team which plays with egg shaped balls - Stamford Bridge (Premier League - level 1) and - Hastings (Isthmian League - level 7) Hence this thread is relevant.
Maybe the confusion is The Mercedes Benz Superdome in New Orleans (see picture) vs The Mercedes Benz Dome in Atlanta. That angle would be tough for soccer.
My issue with Clink is that there's almost no seat where you can see all four lines (both touch and both end lines). I've sat in several different sections and you can only see guys from the waist up when they're on the near line. Stubhub has the seats on the sides farther away from the touch lines and almost every seat has a view of the entire field.
I've only been to one game there but I don't remember that being an issue in the Hawk's Nest at least. Granted those aren't supposed to be the best seats in the house, lol.
Yup. Any of the luxury items present in an NFL stadium are included in modern MLS stadiums, and most of us will never enjoy them anyway. Bathrooms, (good) beer, a seat and a good game are all most of us need anyway. Disagree on the Rose bowl though. Its sight lines aren't bad for the size of the stadium (granted, I've only been there twice). It's the shallowness of the lower bowls for football. Atlanta will have the same issue. Levi has same issue when hosting soccer. Stubhub has a steeper rake. Football stadiums need a wider footprint so the multiple upper levels aren't looking straight down on the field.
From the Hawks Nest you can see the whole field. I assume from the other end as well. It's the sideline seats that have obscured views. This Vs this
As much as C-Link was designed for both soccer and football, it is better for football. SHC is a soccer first venue.
Its the difference between "Soccer Friendly" and "Soccer Specific". The last time I brought this up Seattle Fans were screaming at me. They seem to be particularly psychotic in defense of their stadium.....
In my opinion yes. The seats will be way too far from the field. And the first 6 rows along the sidelines will be useless because you won't be able to see over the players standing along the sidelines.....Watch any game played at Wembley to see exactly what I mean. Wembley overcomes it by it's sheer size.
Been to a few games and was able to see the whole field from seats on the end but had to struggle to see the near line from sideline seats. It's never a problem in SHC the few times I was there no matter where I sat. I am not a big fan of SHC's location but it does provide a more pleasant viewing experience for soccer spectators than CLink if we are only talking about the "viewing" part.
Stubhub also has tons of luxury features for the people that need that stuff - fancy bar for people with club seats, tons of boxes, etc. NFL fans won't feel like they are in an outdated stadium at all. It'll be a far better experience than the ancient Coliseum.
My backyard would be a better experience than the Coliseum. Well maybe not the Coliseum but certainly better than RFK and Oakland's stadium.
Yup. From seat to seat in the middle of Stubhub it's almost 100 yards. The most expensive seats for soccer will be the worst seats for football. 75' from the field and not high enough to watch the game. It's not an issue for the small time games they have there, but if it's sold out an people pay NFL 50 yard line prices for those seats it's going to be chaos.
The beer sellers at Yankee Stadium quickly realized that they weren't going to sell this crap at NYC games, and have switched to selling Stella and Heineken and Goose Island. At half-time the line at the "Beers of the World" counters can be 10 times as long as the lines for traditional American fizzy crap. The choice on the concourses still isn't that great, the 3 above plus Sierra Nevada, Blue Moon but the bars have a wider choice of craft beers. Bloody Millennials!
I happened to be in Seattle in 2014 when Seattle were at home to Portland with 60,000 in the stadium. It was only my second MLS match, the previous being at Giant's Stadium in 1997. I could never stand watching the Metrostars on TV because of Shep Messing. Anyway I think I stood (no-one sat) near the back of section 125 or 126 and the view was fine.