Bob Bradley: in the running for Stabaek?

Discussion in 'Yanks Abroad Academy' started by bungadiri, Nov 17, 2015.

  1. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    damn. i had no idea Bradley got so much love from his previous time in Norway
     
  2. @ringo

    @ringo Member

    Jan 6, 2014
    Club:
    Stabaek IF
    I think it is because the article related to the poll is full of praisal for Bradley :)
     
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  3. bshredder

    bshredder BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 23, 1999
    Club:
    Millwall FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Norway heating up according to their press

    Bradley's agent confirms Bob is interested but declines to comment if he's been contacted by the federation. It's pretty clear the federation really wants Bob too (as do members of the Norwegian media and Norway supporters).

    The story also says the economics of the deal could be the big hang-up.
     
  4. DafyddHuw

    DafyddHuw New Member

    Dec 20, 2016
    Club:
    Swansea City AFC
    So, gone at last. Really nice guy, honest, looked you in the eye, dedicated - but absolutely crap at his job. Inherited a poor squad and made them even worse.

    Our "investors" (who have yet to invest a red cent) wanted a vanity project - a PL team owned by Yanks and run by Yanks. Unfortunately, due to their pig-headed delusion and in their desire to have a coach with the right passport, they've now set the whole concept of a successwful Yank coach at a PL club back about 10 years.
    But - hey-ho - our cheerleadings are second to none.
     
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  5. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    it's cool. Our coaches will just have to settle with La Liga and Bundesliga ;)
     
  6. UplandsJack

    UplandsJack New Member

    Dec 21, 2016
    Club:
    Swansea City AFC
    Well there you go then, you guys are still on the rise, 2nd tier leagues is not bad at all if you ask me....;)
    So its looking likely Bob will be going back to international management and I personally wish him all the best apart from if/when he comes up against Wales....
    Genuinely nice guy, but as others have said way out of his depth. The squad we currently have is the worst since we arrived in the Premier League no doubt ( sad reality for us Jacks, but hey ho). We needed a proven top league manager to turn the tide with lots of contacts in European football to find the additions needed. On top off that what Ive read of Bob's style suggested he didn't fit our philosophy on playing football. Which is something our chairman promised we would try to continue to re-discover.
    On a positive note though for Bob, I think if he had arrived in the Championship with the right club, that was solid enough for him to have had the time to learn on the job, he may well have been relatively successful in the long term....
    Anyway lets see if he has the balls to take a step down to enable a leap forward in the long term, for himself and the American coaches following behind him, as opposed to taking the easy route back to international management....
    Either way "good luck" Bob:thumbsup:
     
  7. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I've said this before, but it's unlikely you will have many American-raised coaches who get a shot in the PL. You need a UEFA Pro License to coach in the league (and pretty much all top-level European leagues, though waivers are possible). And you can't substitute a license from another federation and you have to work your way up the licensing pyramid (like Bradley did). With the opportunity cost and difficulty in getting a reasonable coaching position in Europe (language barrier also plays in), you just aren't going to see experienced MLS-based coaches head over to Europe, unless they are willing to be vagabonds like Bob. You even saw this on the women's side when the English FA ruled out any American coaches because they didn't have the requisite licenses.

    The Americans we will see get opportunities are the ones who completed their playing careers in Europe and jumped right into coaching (like Joe Enochs and Steve Cherundolo). In essence, the markets for coaches are very separate and you will seldom see a non-EU-developed coach in the PL.
     
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  8. TimB4Last

    TimB4Last Member+

    May 5, 2006
    Dystopia
    ^ So, I've been wasting my time and effort saving box tops?
     
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  9. bct81

    bct81 Member+

    multiple (DC United, Dortmund, Arsenal, Leeds....)
    United States
    Mar 17, 2007
    moving around the US every few years ....
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Don't feel bad my friend. Levien is a co owner of DCUnited - and we are waiting on a stadium since 1997 - although to be honest Levien has been with management for a few years here. I just think he has too many irons in the fire and is constantly following the bright shiny object. With any luck Swansea fans will force him and Kaplan to sell their share and you can get your club back.

    And I think most US knowledgeable fans would agree with you that BB is a very decent and honorable guy who was out of his depth here.
     
  10. Right Foot Planted

    Aug 11, 2007
    No, but you need connections to get opportunities.

    Hammarby are part-owned by AEG Worldwide, owners of the LAG.
     
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  11. Statman

    Statman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/38451531
     
  12. bct81

    bct81 Member+

    multiple (DC United, Dortmund, Arsenal, Leeds....)
    United States
    Mar 17, 2007
    moving around the US every few years ....
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yep supporters groups really matter and Levien and Kaplan had to respect that.

    They should have thought thru the BB hiring in the first place.

    Now they have hurt the squad, hurt their own reputation and tarnished BB all at once.

    And Levien is still with DCU.
     
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  13. glennaldo_sf

    glennaldo_sf Member+

    Houston Dynamo, Penang FC, Al Duhail
    United States
    Nov 25, 2004
    Doha, Qatar
    Club:
    FL Fart Vang Hedmark
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Damn, Bob Bradley is worse than global warming...
     
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  14. TimB4Last

    TimB4Last Member+

    May 5, 2006
    Dystopia
    Funny! Climate change, not so funny ...
     
  15. xyz1000

    xyz1000 Member

    Jan 8, 2003
    Bradley out of depth in the PL? As in more out of depth than someone who has never coached a meaningful competitive game in their life? To say that he's out of depth is a sad excuse for those who refuse to believe that this group of players is out of depth in the PL. With this current squad, Sir Alex, Pep Guardiola, Wenger, Klopp, much less Giggs wouldn't be able to get Swansea out of the bottom three.

    Call it like it is.... the team he inherited is out of depth in the PL.
     
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  16. wellno

    wellno Member+

    Jul 31, 2016
    Yes they would, of course they would. Top managers like that elevate players. Eddie Howe has reached mid table with a literal League One defense - in players like Charlie Daniels, Simon Francis and Steve Cook - while Bradley came in and made his defense leakier than a sieve, give Howe (or Ferguson, or Klopp...) those players and very quickly they won't look out of their depth any more. Your post is a sad excuse for those people who don't want to accept Bradley isn't anywhere near the level of managers like Klopp or Guardiola despite his claims.
     
  17. TimB4Last

    TimB4Last Member+

    May 5, 2006
    Dystopia
    Not quite ready to admit Bradley to the coaching pantheon?
     
  18. @ringo

    @ringo Member

    Jan 6, 2014
    Club:
    Stabaek IF
    Well, time will show who is right, my money is on the welsh.
     
  19. JackBastard

    JackBastard Member

    Jan 21, 2007
    Bridgend
    Club:
    Swansea City AFC
    Nat'l Team:
    Wales
    The same squad plus two players finished twelfth last season. So they haven't gone so far backwards in six months that they're now utterly without hope of staying up. The same squad was also competitive and not conceding 3+ goals every week earlier in the season. No doubt at all that it's a poor squad, but is it any worse than Hull or Burnley? The right manager should be able to keep them up, or at least get them looking like he's capable of doing so.

    Look at our squad in our first PL season and you'll see people like Mark Gower, Andrea Orlandi, Kemy Agustien, Stephen Dobbie, Leroy Lita, Alan Tate...all players who had no business being near a PL team and yet Rodgers got them to an eleventh placed finish. That's what good managers do.
     
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  20. deuteronomy

    deuteronomy Member+

    Angkor Siem Reap FC
    United States
    Aug 12, 2008
    at the pitch
    Club:
    Siem Reap Angkor FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    British personality is wired to hate . . .

    Paranoid fears, lol . . .

    http://www.fourfourtwo.com/us/featu...ful-distrust-american-managers?utm_m_medium=t

    To our eyes, the stadium food vendors, the brass bands of college football and formulaic chanting are all uncomfortably alien and collectively represent the kind of organized fun that the British personality has been wired to hate.

    Sport is miserable, sport is suffering and football is both of those things in abundance; the more dour it is, the more authentic it feels. By contrast, the Americans make it look like a wonderful day out: people smile and laugh, the food looks hearty, and the transport systems appear to work. How peculiar – and how wrong.

    Irrational fears

    Irrationally, some won't be able to separate Bradley from those perceived evils. Right up to the point when he emerges at the Emirates Stadium in a fortnight's time, there will be those who expect him to stomp around the technical area in a pair of cowboy boots and spend the first half chewing tobacco.

    That he has been appointed by American owners only hardens those beliefs and heightens the fear. Today an American manager, tomorrow t-shirt cannons, sponsored time-outs and candy floss in the car park?

    Football fans aren't afraid of individuals, but instead, of what their arrival might bring. It's unfair and unfounded, but watching a Bradley-like figure ascend into authority stokes those paranoid fires. He is just a football coach. He'll train players, pick them, and throw around all the usual press-conferences platitudes. But when he opens his mouth and those New Jersey vowels come tumbling out, alarm bells will clang. It's a ridiculous phobia, but it still exists. Clear eyes, full hearts… come on, it's not going to be like that.
     
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  21. bct81

    bct81 Member+

    multiple (DC United, Dortmund, Arsenal, Leeds....)
    United States
    Mar 17, 2007
    moving around the US every few years ....
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    " self-appointed arbiters of sporting decency "

    Wow
     
  22. Lloyd Heilbrunn

    Lloyd Heilbrunn Member+

    Feb 11, 2002
    Jupiter, Fl.
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I missed this story and find it hysterical...

    So I'm guessing Anson Dorrance and Tony DiCicco would not be qualified to coach women in England? :ROFLMAO:
     
  23. deuteronomy

    deuteronomy Member+

    Angkor Siem Reap FC
    United States
    Aug 12, 2008
    at the pitch
    Club:
    Siem Reap Angkor FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And amusingly, when they emigrate to the US, they (typically) see no reason to get the requisite USSF or NSCAA coaching licenses.
     
  24. y-lee-coyote

    y-lee-coyote Member+

    Dec 4, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    Or maybe they like their local club being you know local and not cold sanitary corporate logo BS. Their concerns are valid, they are losing their local club that many have huge generational emotional investments in.

    I speak as somebody who no longer cares about NCAA football for that very reason.
     

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