U.S. declines to veto U.N. Security Council resolution for Israel to stop Jewish settlement activity

Plato or plumo is hardly a legitimate means of annexation. If a person builds a house in someones back yard how long must they hold a gun before the house becomes a fait accompli? I believe this is the Ulster ulcer question as welll. Those types of affronts never really go away.

 

It's not what happened, but who cares about history when you've got a cause.

 

Or if you replace Jewish with Islamic republic.

 

Well they do have black Jews.

But yes, they (Israel) does not treat their black Jews very well.

 

America's relationship with Israel seriously reminds me of China's relationship with N. Korea at times


middle-eastern religious country with nukes threatened a democratic country on the other side of the globe with war. Hmmm

 

Fine. US government. But my point stands, you don't show this kind of hostility to your closest ally no matter who is in power (not to mention American Jews typically vote Democrat).

While Team Netanyahu has been busy pointing fingers at everyone and everything related to the passing of the UN resolution I noticed something interesting in the conservative US media coverage. They either blame Obama (he's secretly a Muslim, always hated Israel etc) or the United Nations as a body. The UN, while deeply flawed in many ways, is ultimately a platform for diplomatic interests of the underlying members. So where is the criticism of New Zealand who co-sponsored the resolution or better yet - their spiritual brothers in Brexit Britain who voted in favor of it? I guess being at odds with the majority of the world (in your treatment of Israel) is not something worth highlighting.

International Recognition of Palestine:


I think it's safe to say that whoever went through the trouble of formally recognizing Palestine has the often cited 1967 borders in mind. Expect more green on this map in the next 4-8 years.

 

Report that Joe Biden persuaded Ukrainians to vote yes. They wanted to delay the vote for a bit.

 

Our closest ally is Canada fyi.

Last I remember Canada never launched an air strike on one of our ships.

 

So New Zealand sponsored this and they do not recognize Palestine as a state. Weird.

 

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The difference is that white people can go to a multitude of places where they are not perpetually in the minority, where they can control their own destiny, and where their culture can be preserved. Jews only have Israel. If Israel ceases to exist, Jews and Jewish culture will disappear in a few generations.

 

Are you being serious or being ironic? I honestly can't tell. Sounds pretty dramatic.

 

How did it survive in Europe for centuries?

 

Kerry in speech will reportedly say Israel can be either Jewish or democratic - it can't be both.

 

2/3 of all European Jews didn't make it through WW2. So I suppose you could say Jews survived in Europe but that's a pretty low bar.

 

It was horrific but yes they did. And they took their Jewishness to lots of other places around the globe and still thrived. Was never easy but they're resilient people. It's why the kicking down of Palestinians is all the more baffling considering Jewish history.

 

Being a dick has consequences, so maybe Netanyahu will learn from this. And it's hard to see how building ever more settlements is going to move the "peace process," such as it is, forward. Obama is back in DGAF mode; good for him.

 

What Israel does has a massive effect on how Jews are viewed and treated worldwide.

My concern is absolutely justified.

It's not a contest. They should be worried. And not just them.

 

Certainly true. But I still see nothing textually objectionable about this latest resolution.

 

The Holocaust was only possible because there was no place on Earth that Jews could live as Jews.

In Europe it turned out that they could be stripped of citizenship, and therefore stripped of all rights and powers. Reduced to statelessness, they had nowhere to go, and nobody wanted them. No other state was willing to accept their immigration in the millions. It was proven by the Jews of Europe that there is no inherent "human right" to exist on Earth -- not without a territorial state power to affirm that right of existence, not without a place where that right can be made real. So they were rather easily exterminated in the millions. Had Hitler succeeded, we could have been wiped out entirely.

That is why Israel's existence stands as proof and testament that Jews have a right to exist on this Earth at all. That is why attacks on Israel, or anything that undermines Israel, are considered antisemitic attacks on Jews as whole.

It's also why Israeli Jews, of all people, should respect the need for a Palestinian state. And not just a Palestinian state.

As for @Sudžuka's question, the difference is those people are not stateless.

 

Antisemitism short of extermination.

I'm not joking.