Tea Light in the Dark Universe: Bobby Wood at Hamburg

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  1. LouisZ

    LouisZ Member+

    Oct 14, 2010
    Southern California-USA
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    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    A high difficulty shot with his left from the corner of the right side of the 18.
     
  2. Football Master

    May 13, 2010
    Club:
    Hamburger SV
    There should be no argument.

    Hamburg in the first 10 games = helpless team. Very few chances created. 4 goals. No victory. Wood was suspended for 3 games in the 9th game.

    Hamburg last 6 games = 11 points from 18. One loss. 10 goals. A much much improved team. Creating lots of chances. Wood was available from the 13th game, sat on the bench in that game because in-form striker (Gregoritsch) scoring 2 in prior match. The same for 14th game, Gregoritsch scored 3 in last two. He started 15th game = scored. Him not starting tonight was unexpected but it did pay off at the end. He's still Hamburg main striker.

    I've watched all hamburg games this season. They look a completely different team in the last two months. Nothing to do with Wood playing or not. Hamburg are 4th in BL table based on the last 6 games (second best attack on that period). The team was playing crap, now they are starting to fulfil their potential and play good football.

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  3. Kagler24

    Kagler24 Member+

    Nov 13, 2008
    Los Angeles
    Ive watched a few Hamburg games this season, and this is the first time they have been somewhat fun to watch. Reminds me of Bob Bradley's USMNT. Not good in possession, but excellent on the counter. This game was calling for Bobby when he came on, Schalke were pressing to equalize, and Hamburg was showing signs of a second on the counter. If they can maintain this style, I think it could really suit Bobby and he could influence the game a lot more.

    Edit: He was also excellent with his hold up play, and turned his man a few times with his back to goal as well. My 2 cents.
     
  4. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    4 goals in 13 Bundesliga matches. 6 goals in 15 matches overall. Not too shabby on a side akin to relegation fodder
     
  5. Mario Balotelli

    Mario Balotelli Member+

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    Feb 28, 2012
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    Manchester City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #5230 Mario Balotelli, Dec 20, 2016
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    I've watched every game Bobby has featured in and the team is inevitably better with him on the pitch. He holds the ball up better than their other forwards and has shown he can create without much service. Their problems have clearly been in midfield and defense.

    Stats wise, he's been their best attacker. He has 6 goals in in 917 minutes while Grigoritsch has 3 and 2 assists in 894 minutes. The only player that's similar in productivity is Nicolai Muller who has 4 goals and 3 assists in nearly 1400 minutes. Stats aside, from what I've seen, Bobby is better at running at defenders and stronger on the ball up front than any of Hamburg's other fowrards. Bobby's one of their best players.
     
  6. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    Always a good sign...
     
  7. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    Hopefully he can move to a big club like Munich 1860...
     
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  8. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    the stutter step(s) and eventual chop was equally lovely. Just pretty all the way around
     
  9. Midas Mulligan

    Midas Mulligan Member+

    Jul 24, 2013
    NYC
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Bobby Wood is twice the player of that stiff Gregorich. No, really. That guy is so stiff in his movement.

    I'm sorry you watched the games without Bobby. Must have been tough.
     
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  10. Eighteen Alpha

    Eighteen Alpha Member+

    Aug 17, 2016
    Club:
    Stoke City FC
    The man is an American "craque."
     
  11. wrench

    wrench Member+

    May 12, 2007
    NYC
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    When Auby moves along, they, Dortmund, are gonna need somebody. With what they get fr him, they can get BW and a defender or two.
     
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  12. Eighteen Alpha

    Eighteen Alpha Member+

    Aug 17, 2016
    Club:
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    Be still, my heart.
     
  13. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    might be a step too far for him. He'd need a solid season or 2 at least for a move to a CL club unless Dortmund plan to have him as maybe a cheap super-sub on the books.
     
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  14. wrench

    wrench Member+

    May 12, 2007
    NYC
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    I think he would thrive w service and talent around him. You can't concentrate on him too much. We can dream.
     
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  15. ChrisSSBB

    ChrisSSBB Member+

    Jun 22, 2005
    DE
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No, you can't look at it in a vacuum.

    Bobby started 8 games where they scored 4 goals and conceded 21

    Bobby didn't start 8 games and they scored 10 goals and conceded 10.

    It is never that simple as numbers and you can't pin everything on one player, but don't think a coach isn't aware.
    It is just interesting, that's all and for me makes it not so surprising when he doesn't start. Doesn't mean he isn't a quality player.
     
  16. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    BuLi games he started:

    At home vs. Ingolstadt --tied 1-1, Bobby scored, HSV should have won.
    Away at Leverkusen --lost 3-1, Bobby scored, but it was a hard match.
    At home vs. Leipzig --lost 0-4, could have been more. Totally outclassed, Bobby invisible.
    Away to Freiburg --lost 1-0, Bobby was ok but couldn't score, should have got a point.
    At home vs. Bayern --lost 0-1, very good HSV game, Bobby was always dangerous.
    Away at Hertha --lost 2-0, another tough match.
    Away at Köln --lost 3-0, Bobby got a red in the 58', when it was 0-0. May have cost 'em the game.
    Away at Mainz --Bobby started, scored one, then Danny Latza scored 5 and they lost 3-1.

    So out of 8 games, there were four they were unlikely to get any points from, Bobby or not: @ Bayer, vs. Leipzig, vs. Bayern, @ Hertha.

    @ Köln & @ Mainz were more accessible, but still two losses there were sort of expected.

    Bobby started in the toughest games.
     
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  17. ChrisSSBB

    ChrisSSBB Member+

    Jun 22, 2005
    DE
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    Thanks, I did want to look closer at that. Plus, he just started 3 days ago so not a big surprise he didn't start today.
     
  18. kba4life1

    kba4life1 Member+

    Jul 14, 2010
    Irvine, CA
    Agreed. I think he can replace Ramos as the number 2 center forward but I just don't think he has the top end skills to be a number one guy on a Dortmund caliber team....and there's no shame in that.
     
  19. HouseHead78

    HouseHead78 Member+

    Oct 17, 2006
    Austin, TX
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Funny you said that....the only bit of this game I saw was Bobbys goal, but the first thing I thought was "that's a Bob Bradley era USA goal." Just the shape of the team and the way he drifted wide and looked for the ball behind, was very familiar. Looked like Davies or Donovan making that kind of run...
     
  20. The Irish Rover

    The Irish Rover Member+

    Aug 1, 2010
    Dublin
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
    and that, kiddies (and parents of kiddies) is why it pays to work like f#*king hell to become two-footed.

    This one's a marvelous goal with great composure at the end - he knew what he wanted to do - and he's scored a belter or two with his right.

    The lad has all the tools and is getting better all the time. I can see him in a CL club or the EPL in 18 months.
     
  21. Rahbiefowlah

    Rahbiefowlah Member+

    Oct 22, 2001
    Las Vegas
    I mean...is he left or right footed?
     
  22. The Irish Rover

    The Irish Rover Member+

    Aug 1, 2010
    Dublin
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
    Dunno. 99.99999% of even top-level players naturally favour one foot over the other, but the very best work non-stop from early childhood to develop their other foot.

    A few "left-footed" players - like Santi Carzola IIRC - become better on their second foot because they're really very good on their right foot, become 90-95% as good on their left, and since good lefties are hard to find, they wind up at LM or LCM using their left nearly all the time.

    It's something the continentals take much, much more seriously than the Brits. I remember Gary Lineker admitting how embarassed he was at Barcelona when passes to his left foot kept bouncing away. As a kid, nobody had ever been bothered as long as he was scoring goals.

    He started working - damn hard the Spanish said - on his left but it was a bit late at 26. "I could swing it" was the extent of his progress.
     
  23. Midas Mulligan

    Midas Mulligan Member+

    Jul 24, 2013
    NYC
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He's right footed.
     
  24. LouisZ

    LouisZ Member+

    Oct 14, 2010
    Southern California-USA
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    When is so evenly distributed does it matter but, if you must know for sure then the only way to tell is by which hand he shakes hands with or high-five's.
     
  25. m vann

    m vann Moderator
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    Colorado Rapids, Celtic FC, & Louisville City
    Sep 10, 2002
    Denver, CO
    Club:
    Celtic FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And just think...........1860 Munich essentially gave up on him. Some his fault and some not. But don't you think they are kicking themselves? :D
     
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