NASL is no longer considering suing US Soccer for anti-trust over division 1 status

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  1. Egbert Sousé

    Egbert Sousé Member

    NYCFC
    May 25, 2013
    nyc
    Club:
    New York City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So exactly whatever happened to Onionsack, Amerisnob, Mr Smartypants, Deacon and all the other know-it-alls who were certain the f.cosmos were going to bring MLS to its knees?

    Just goes to show you can't believe every conversation between court room security guards you overhear or all those ManU, Liverpool, Chelsea fans et al throughout the NYC metro-area who swore they were all aboard the Cosmos train (they must have gotten off at the wrong station, because they sure as hell never made it out to Uniondale).
     
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  2. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    For example see:
    http://forums.bigsoccer.com/threads/nasl-a-real-threat-to-mls.1989200/
     
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  3. Zoidberg

    Zoidberg Member+

    Jun 23, 2006
    Court room security guard! I remember that one...that was real, right!?

    Wasn't there an actual barber shop one also?

    Ah...good times.
     
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  4. KCbus

    KCbus Moderator
    Staff Member

    United States
    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I got sucked down the rabbit hole responding to him. What the hell was I thinking...
     
  5. Zoidberg

    Zoidberg Member+

    Jun 23, 2006
    The internet at it's worst.

    It can be like that vortex which sucked Nash into medieval times to face the Army of Darkness.

    Klatu verata nnnn....nickel. You should know better, just like you should remember the words, but you let the evil out.
     
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  6. Egbert Sousé

    Egbert Sousé Member

    NYCFC
    May 25, 2013
    nyc
    Club:
    New York City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The court room was a real one indeed.

    I'm not sure about the barber shop (wouldn't surprise me the least if he posted something like that), but there were a couple times where he tried to convince everyone he had connections to people in high places at MLS who would bemoan over after work cocktails the league ever got involved with NYCFC. :rolleyes:
     
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  7. Zoidberg

    Zoidberg Member+

    Jun 23, 2006
    It may not have been barbershop, but I recall something hilariously sitcom like also. Fun stuff, and they were so damn aggressive and adamant. I can't help but make the comparison again, but exactly the types JK feasted on.

    All that guerrilla marketing and teenagers sticking Cosmos stickers everywhere. The unlimited Arab money. RB not letting NYC use their stadium because they would be outdrawn and embarrassed. Good, good times. I may have to grab a drink this weekend and go back and read.
     
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  8. Zoidberg

    Zoidberg Member+

    Jun 23, 2006
    That guy in the NASL news thread today...whose name begins with w...reminded me 100 percent of Onionsack trying to be calm TBH. I wouldn't be shocked if it's him.
     
  9. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ash, Housewares

    Hail to the King, Baby
     
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  10. DanGerman

    DanGerman Member+

    Aug 28, 2014
    New York City
    Club:
    New York City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    A year AFTER they started playing I noticed the marketing push that NYCFC started and stated on the Cosmos forums that they needed to pick up their marketing in the city or NYCFC was going to take over (which they ended up doing) I got blasted as a "bot" and "hater" and eventually banned from the Cosmos forums. The team really lost hope the second NYCFC became the premier team in NYC proper, after that there wasn't enough Raul's in the world to help them. Funny story, the Cosmos sent some college marketing interns to the NYCFC home opener trying to get fans to their home opener! They were not well received to say the least.
     
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  11. Zoidberg

    Zoidberg Member+

    Jun 23, 2006
    Their guerrilla marketing tactics were excellent. The amount of publicity they were able to generate was pretty impressive. In that department they were top notch.
     
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  12. DanGerman

    DanGerman Member+

    Aug 28, 2014
    New York City
    Club:
    New York City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Was it really? I'm not so sure it went any deeper then the hardcore fans who thought it was "cool". They never really reached the casuals and never connected with many in the city (due to distance of stadia and lack of public transit) which was my initial concern. All valid but in the Cosmos fan boy world bring up valid concerns is a trolling action.
     
  13. Eric B

    Eric B Member

    Feb 21, 2000
    the LBC
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They were even annoying around here when Pinton still owned the name.
     
  14. Zoidberg

    Zoidberg Member+

    Jun 23, 2006
    They got some pretty good ink from all the majors by piggy backing.

    For what they were they did a very good job IMO.
     
  15. TheJoeGreene

    TheJoeGreene Member+

    Aug 19, 2012
    The Lubbock Texas
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    The biggest issue for pro/rel in the US was, and still is, the number of large markets. There are as many metro areas of 2 million or more in the US as there are in the EU. Tell a TV executive that they have a chance of teams being relegated so that nobody is playing in NY and/or LA and you'll either have no coverage or a contract where the money dries up the moment those cities are gone.

    A close second is the reality of franchises vs clubs. Everything else is tertiary.
     
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  16. Mateofelipe

    Mateofelipe Member+

    Mar 10, 2001
    Spokane, WA
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah, I wonder where that survey reported in the Economist was taken. A British pub?
     
  17. tigersoccer2005

    tigersoccer2005 Member+

    Dec 1, 2003
    North Bergen, NJ
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think that if Cosmos was going to catch momentum in NASL it was during the first year. I remember there were lots of fans that year and the relaunched Cosmos were on ny sports cable tv (i think it was SNY?) As soon as they didn't renew with SNY and let the tv coverage switch to 1 World Sports the team fell off the radar of many potential fans in the nyc area because the team was no longer easily found on tv.
     
  18. tigersoccer2005

    tigersoccer2005 Member+

    Dec 1, 2003
    North Bergen, NJ
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't get why Ted Westervelt is calling the initial exploratory talk between Garber and Cincy FC "evidence of corruption at the highest levels." He is also going on about the possibility of "tainted promotion." If Garber is interested and if Cincy is able to meet league requirements to join how is that corrupt? o_O:rolleyes: Anyway it's far too early to even talk about promotion. This is nothing more than a get to know you conversation. For all we know it may have lasted 5 minutes.
     
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  19. Darkwing McQuack

    Darkwing McQuack BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 11, 2011
    Morrisville, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They haven't. They're jumping ship and are done with the American game. I guess they'll go back to supporting teams that'll never get relegated.
     
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  20. Elninho

    Elninho Member+

    Sacramento Republic FC
    United States
    Oct 30, 2000
    Sacramento, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is a big one. Most countries tend to have few enough big cities that the largest cities will typically have multiple clubs in the top division at any time.

    The only exception is China, but there, the pro/rel pyramid developed mostly when soccer was only popular in the former Manchuria and a few of the more cosmopolitan cities outside that region.
     
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  21. tigersoccer2005

    tigersoccer2005 Member+

    Dec 1, 2003
    North Bergen, NJ
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    :ROFLMAO: Here we go--back to Euro gloryhunting with Man U, Man City, Arsenal, Liverpool, Chelsea, Barca, Real, Juventus, and Bayern !
     
  22. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Fixed your post
     
  23. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    Ted Westervelt is the Alex Jones of American soccer.

    If there's a conspiracy to be seen, he's hallucinating it.
     
  24. Darkwing McQuack

    Darkwing McQuack BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 11, 2011
    Morrisville, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  25. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
    Tarpon Springs, FL
    Club:
    Jorge Wilstermann
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    Yeah, that's certainly a good reason. But also related to country size.
     

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