News: Klinsmann comments to media over the weekend

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  1. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    There are an unusual amount of media interviews (and a Facebook Q&A) with Klinsmann in the last day or two. He spoke to a number of different journalists. He said a lot of noteworthy things. Here are some of the articles I saw. I think a lot of these comments are worth discussing.

    http://www.foxsports.com/soccer/sto...rmation-designed-for-christian-pulisic-112016

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/21/sports/jurgen-klinsmann-national-team.html

    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-soccer-world-cup-u-s-klinsmann-idUSKBN13F0PQ

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/klinsman...cking-playing-time-221917372.html?fb_in_app=2
     
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  2. Mattbro

    Mattbro Member+

    Sep 21, 2001
    That NY Times piece is a doozy. Apparently we're all idiots who still don't recognize his genius.
     
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  3. swedust

    swedust Member+

    Aug 30, 2004
    I don't have an NYT account, and link is password protected.

    Care to quote the juiciest tidbit (obviously, don't re-post whole article)?
     
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  4. Mattbro

    Mattbro Member+

    Sep 21, 2001
    You've got mail, but it was basically more of the same bla bla, we're making progress, learning experience, I'm certain we'll qualify, people are only criticizing me because they don't understand soccer... basically the same crap he's been saying for five years.
     
  5. lmorin

    lmorin Member+

    Mar 29, 2000
    New Hampshire
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Gee, I could have said the same and it would have had the same merit. The Anonymous One either knows something and the comment is therefore interesting or he knows nothing new and the comment is mere speculation, such as mine would have been.
     
  6. swedust

    swedust Member+

    Aug 30, 2004
    My favorite is this one:

    “I always made it clear to Sunil, if you really want to move up to the top 15 in the world, you need to have consistency in what you’re doing,” Klinsmann said. “If you react emotionally, you will become a roller coaster.”

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  7. John McGuirk

    John McGuirk Member+

    Jun 12, 2011
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Good morning.

    Klinsi Raus.
     
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  8. GiallorossiYank

    GiallorossiYank Member+

    Jan 20, 2011
    NJ/Roma/Napoli
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    In a real soccer country, he would have been fired by now...right?
     
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  9. bshredder

    bshredder BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 23, 1999
    Club:
    Millwall FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    ASN: Enough.

     
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  10. Red Card

    Red Card Member+

    Mar 3, 1999
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    When will Sunil see that the Emperor is not wearing any clothes? Almost everyone else sees it!
     
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  11. John McGuirk

    John McGuirk Member+

    Jun 12, 2011
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This was kind of entertaining. Shaka vs. Steve

     
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  12. Footsatt

    Footsatt Member+

    Apr 8, 2008
    Michigan
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Some quotes from the NYT article...

    “I’m not afraid,” Klinsmann said. “What you need to do is stick to the facts. Soccer is emotional, and a lot of people make conclusions without knowing anything about the inside of the team or the sport. I still believe we will get the points we need to qualify, and I am even confident we could win the group.”

    And...

    "If Gulati decides to replace Klinsmann, it could be announced as soon as this week, according to several soccer executives familiar with the situation, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to publicly discuss a personnel decision.


    This could be an ideal time to make a switch: The United States does not play its next World Cup qualifier until March, allowing a new coach several months to get acclimated. Bruce Arena, who coached the national team from 1998 to 2006, is the top candidate to replace Klinsmann if Gulati decides to make a change."
     
  13. FirstStar

    FirstStar Hustlin' for the USA

    Fulham Football Club
    Feb 1, 2005
    Time's Arrow
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Probably not the right thread, but everyone should realize the above is most likely a true statement - we still have a ridiculously high chance of qualifying. That's not the issue. Jurgen's just confusing "limping over the finishing line" with "success". In fact, for all his condescension, we've become more of a soccer nation than we used to be - we demand better than just qualifying. He's not giving us that.
     
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  14. Mattbro

    Mattbro Member+

    Sep 21, 2001
    Steve Nicol:

    "His job is to get the United States to the World Cup."

    Yep. That's what he's earning four times as much as Bradley.
     
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  15. OWN(yewu)ED

    OWN(yewu)ED Member+

    Club: Venezia F.C.
    May 26, 2006
    chico, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    if it is "as soon as this week", it needs to be this week. we need to make sure the new coach gets a proper changeover and a chance to run the January camp, which will probably be the most important one in Camp Cupcake history.
     
  16. chad

    chad Member+

    Jun 24, 1999
    Manhattan Beach
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I really wished I knew where this jackass does his grocery shopping.
     
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  17. Susaeta

    Susaeta BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 3, 2009
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Coaches who are "not afraid" do not do PR blitzes.
     
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  18. Marko72

    Marko72 Member+

    Aug 30, 2005
    New York
    "I take it back. You're a real soccer country now."
     
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  19. Marko72

    Marko72 Member+

    Aug 30, 2005
    New York
    "Ridiculously high" is an overstatement. I'm seeing simulations that are putting our chances somewhere between the low 60s and low 80s. It's still probable that we qualify, but it is no slam dunk at this point, either.

    If the March fixtures don't net us at least 4 points, those numbers will drop quite significantly. We just used up a significant portion of our margin for error.
     
  20. RalleeMonkey

    RalleeMonkey Member+

    Aug 30, 2004
    here
    Which is why I want him gone. If he was merely inept, I wouldn't say anything. But, inept and consdescendingly insulting the fan base is intolerable.
     
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  21. bigredfutbol

    bigredfutbol Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 5, 2000
    Woodbridge, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yes to all that--plus, five years after he got a huge salary to take us to the next level, this jackass has the nerve to suggest that doing slightly worse than his predecessors in at least some ways is now all we should expect.
     
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  22. OWN(yewu)ED

    OWN(yewu)ED Member+

    Club: Venezia F.C.
    May 26, 2006
    chico, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    yup......order of the day next set is play for the point in Panama, park the bus, win at home against Honduras. 4 points is acceptable in that scenario, no matter who the coach is. That's about the best I can see Klinsmann obtaining. It would be an amazing result getting a 0-0 draw in panama given the circumstances (how good they look, how much we suck)
     
  23. KickersFTW

    KickersFTW Member+

    Jan 12, 2012
    RVA (Soccer hotbed)
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What other country could you trash the fans while delivering terrible results and not get fired? In Russia you'd get killed probably.
     
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  24. JohnW

    JohnW Member

    Apr 27, 2001
    St. Paul
    I wonder if there are any recent examples in which simulations uniformly predicted the opposite results of what happened? ;)

    But more seriously, whoever said coaches who are secure don't need to do a sudden media blitz was correct. I didn't read the Reuters story, but I did read the New York Times story.

    It reminded me of this clip from "Seinfeld:"
     
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  25. Marko72

    Marko72 Member+

    Aug 30, 2005
    New York
    I actually wrote something to that effect in my post and then deleted it for fear of sidetracking the discussion, but yes, obviously we should be feeling the opposite of secure at this point.
     

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