Bob Bradley named Swansea Manager

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  1. PTFC in KCMO

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  2. AndyMead

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    Nov 2, 1999
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    Normally this is where the "now just don't suck" sentiments come in.

    Except that this is Bob Bradley we're talking about. He may not be the greatest manager, but he's always been among the most prepared. He maximizes his talent base.

    I suspect he's above replacement level for EPL managers.

    Go get'em Bob, open the door for more American coaches.
     
  3. EvilTree

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    Him and Dave Wagner at Huddersfield
     
  4. PTFC in KCMO

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    Honestly, I am surprised just because the Premier League recycles managers worse than the NFL does head coaches.
     
  5. Tony in Quakeland

    Jan 27, 2003
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    Going to repeat a comment I made elsewhere:

    Fears that Bob isn’t “up to EPL level” are based on inflated ideas of what that level is. If he was called into a top six club there would be a legitimate question about how to handle a team of international superstars. Not going to be a problem at Swansea. It will take him a year plus, but he will get them to the top half of the table.

    Comments on the English newspaper sites range from reasonable questions with a wait and see attitude to "he will get them to score more touchdowns and home runs". Prediction: It won’t be long before he’s known as General Bradley
     
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  6. AndyMead

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    When you recycle a known quantity and you fail, it's the manager's fault. If you bring in an unknown, it's the upper management/owners' fault.

    It's amazing how much CYA explains the world.

    It's worse in the EPL than than the NFL because in the NFL you can replace the coach, bring in your top draft pick game changer and have another go next year. In the EPL, the political/public pressure is magnified. It's somewhat acceptable to have an unknown manager and somewhat acceptable for most clubs to get relegated occasionally. But to get relegated while having an unknown manager is an unholy mess for the owners. The risk/reward for risk-takers is completely out of whack.
     
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  7. Stan Collins

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    That is because of the aforementioned "EPL level" BS. It's tautological; you can't be good enough for the Premier League unless you're already there.

    --

    I'm worried he's a bit set up to fail for different reasons, though. One is that Guidolin hadn't truly lost the fanbase from what I've read. Instead, ownership came in and asserted itself--American ownership hiring an American manager, which is not likely to warm the subcocular area of the Swansea heart. The British media is straight up vicious, all the more so if they are feeding the fans what they want to hear.
     
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  8. Boloni86

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    I've always liked Guidolin. Unfortunate to see a drastic change like this with season in full swing. These types of moves carry a lot of bad karma with them and usually fail. I see Swansea as a top candidate for the drop this year.
     
  9. Tony in Quakeland

    Jan 27, 2003
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    The upside is if you bring in am unknown and it works - you're a genius!

    The other downside - bring in a recycled manager and get mostly the same results, you lack vision.

    May as well die going forward.
     
  10. tab5g

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    May 17, 2002
    So, will Michael be a winter or a summer signing for Swansea?

    You know, because.

    Actually, Donovan would probably be a perfect winter signing for Swansea.

    Or maybe Kljestan.
     
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  11. What makes you think he'll get a year plus? If they go down he will be gone just like every other manager there when that happens.
     
  12. PJohnson

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    And what makes you so sure they will be relegated. Why are you already making that assumption?
     
  13. Honore de Ballsac

    Oct 28, 2005
    France.
  14. Eric B

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    [​IMG]
     
  15. Tony in Quakeland

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    Because this year he will lead them to safety and get another year.
     
  16. Knave

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    Another talented American going off to rot on a Premier League bench ... :whistling:
     
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  17. Fiosfan

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  18. bbsbt

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    Because Bob is American and honed his coaching skills in MLS, that's why.

    signed,
    Eurosnob
     
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  19. Burr

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    "Nobody ever got fired for buying IBM."
     
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  20. Tom Ado

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    I know local newsrooms are staffed with aging fossils who probably hate soccer, but that's no excuse for abandoning journalism's #1 rule. smh
     
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  21. AndyMead

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  22. Eastern Bear

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    Even your dog sounded pissed off that she got her facts wrong.
     
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  23. Honore de Ballsac

    Oct 28, 2005
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    So is Bob on the right side of this dynamic now?
     
  24. Kappa74

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    I don't follow the league, but was wondering how many times has an English manager won the EPL?
     
  25. GreatGonzo

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    An English manager has never won the Premier League. Last English manager to win the top league was Howard Wilkinson in 1991-1992, the last year before the Premier League formed.
     
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