Christian Pulisic at AC Milan

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  1. chrisdon72

    chrisdon72 Member

    Feb 23, 2000
    #5326 chrisdon72, Sep 29, 2016
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    I remember celebrating when Kirovski made the BENCH in a CL match for BVB. Good old days... LOL
     
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  2. smithfan

    smithfan Member+

    Aug 14, 2005
    Waimoana
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Nah. That's not Dortmund's philosophy. Truth is that one day the player will want to earn more than BVB can pay him and will likely want to play for a "bigger" club (in terms of prestige).
    I do hope for him that he doesn't think too early about the big money and becoming a "hero" for his countrymen. Take your time, young man. ;) I've seen so many great players within the last years that left us too early or for the wrong reasons / to the wrong team and that have struggled then. Often, they were even under pressure from their countrymen or media to change clubs because obviously there are teams that have more prestige worldwide and the less world class players you have, the higher the danger that people will want to see their favourite football player sign for Real, Barca, City, United etc as quickly as possible. Nuri Sahin was such a case, he had an offer from Real Madrid after his first fantastic season for Dortmund and he left because all he could think of was the fact that he would become the "first Turk to ever play for Real Madrid" and all the Turkish fans and media totally wanted him to move as quickly as possible. It hurt him badly. Even Götze who was really on the verge of becoming world-class left the club 1-2 years too early. Henrikh Mkhitaryan stressed out that he is the first Armenian Premier League Player ever and left us for a club where it was _always_ known that the coach didn't actually want him so badly, but rather accepted Mkhitaryan as part of Raiola's package in order to get an agreement with Pogba. We'll see how that turns out in the end.
     
  3. MatthausSammer

    MatthausSammer Moderator
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    Dec 9, 2012
    Canada
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    That's not really how BVB works. Yes, BVB is a selling club to the truly top clubs and brands, but they don't really see their players as potential products to sell unlike, say, Porto. Ideally they want to keep their players as long as possible rather than looking to sell at maximum value. Most of the world class players they sell have a year left on their contracts and are looking to leave, often to a particular destination like Bayern. As a result they make relatively little money for their sold players compared to what they could've sold them for at peak value.
     
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  4. MatthausSammer

    MatthausSammer Moderator
    Staff Member

    Dec 9, 2012
    Canada
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Dang it, ninja'd. :(
     
  5. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
    Tarpon Springs, FL
    Club:
    Jorge Wilstermann
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    Dortmund are like Arsenal. They don't want to sell but they often have no choice.
     
  6. Bruce S

    Bruce S Member+

    Sep 10, 1999
    but CP strikes me (and everyone) as a very level headed guy. My guess is he is happy where he is.
     
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  7. wsmaugham

    wsmaugham Member+

    Apr 3, 2002
    Chicago
    #5332 wsmaugham, Sep 29, 2016
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    Thanks Turd. We can always count on you to clear the room.
     
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  8. Mario Balotelli

    Mario Balotelli Member+

    United States
    Feb 28, 2012
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    One interesting thing I noticed when I searched Pulisic on Twitter after the Real Madrid game was all the foreign fans who were talking about him. There were several accounts from different countries (France, Germany, Brazil, etc.) with kids who had Pulisic in their display name or username. Man U and especially Liverpool fans were talking about wanting their team to sign him. It seems like there's an article everyday from a Liverpool based publication talking about a possible Pulisic transfer/update on contract talks. I don't think we've ever had a player with this kind of global appeal, let alone an 18 year old in the infancy of his professional career.
     
  9. Dr.Phil

    Dr.Phil Member+

    Jan 18, 2004
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  10. Gacm32

    Gacm32 Member+

    Chelsea
    Switzerland
    Nov 28, 2010
    Geneva
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    Hahah we're not even hyping this kid as much as everyone else.
     
  11. Dr.Phil

    Dr.Phil Member+

    Jan 18, 2004
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's why it's good he's in Germany and at Dortmund
     
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  12. beerslinger23

    beerslinger23 Member+

    Jun 26, 2010
    butbutbut there was a deflection...:cry::(
     
  13. an1310

    an1310 Member+

    Jun 2, 2003
    Atlanta, GA
    Schnitzel? EDIT: Beat me to it.
     
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  14. jond

    jond Member+

    Sep 28, 2010
    Club:
    Levski Sofia
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Said it before but assuming BVB continues on its path and it's a good situation, I'd love to see him stay there thru the 2022 WC. He'd be 23 at that point, far more mature both physically and mentally. Win a couple Bund titles. Push deep into UCL. Be a Bund first XI level player. Have two WC's in his back pocket. Still be just short of entering his prime.

    Then at that point at 23, that's when when he can consider moving up to one of the true handful of elite clubs if it makes sense(we still have to see how he develops). You'd want most if his development behind him, know what he truly is before taking that step, know he's going to get serious time. You don't want him moving to a bigger club to continue developing. You only consider that when you're so good and proven, they need you. That's rare. It's true world class level.

    It's Neymar moving to Barca at 21. It's Bale moving to Madrid at 24. It's De Bruyne moving to City at 24. Ozil moving to Madrid at 22. IMO that's the age range you consider it, roughly 22-24. And any move to a huge club carries a big transfer fee and mountains of pressure. Gotta be mature and battle tested to handle it.

    However, I wouldn't be against the Reus route. Worked out well for him. He still has years of development ahead of him from 18-22. Not sure he can find a better place than BVB for that. And I'll add, something I love about the Bund is the winter break. Keeps players fresh. After a number of years that adds up compared to the non-stop Aug-May schedule elsewhere. Likely prolongs careers.

    People wanting him to jump ship in the next year or two are insane, in my humble opinion.
     
  15. Cris 09

    Cris 09 Trololololo

    Nov 30, 2004
    Westfalenstadion
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
  16. TxEx

    TxEx Member+

    Tottenham Hotspur, Crystal Palace, FC Dallas
    Aug 19, 2016
    DFW
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Personally in my dream world he's sold to Tottenham cause that's my team. Unfortunately they're not bigger than Dortmund and the move doesn't make much sense unless they just off 30m now knowing that number will only go up in the next few years.

    Failing that, stay at BVB. He's obviously comfortable. He'll certainly get game time and he's almost assured of yearly CL opportunities. There's really not a better place to be in the next few years until he's more firmly established and can then grab a spot at Barca or RM.
     
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  17. crews46

    crews46 Member

    Oct 12, 2009
    Fairfax, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I love watching this team play - can't imagine a better place for him to develop. Strong competition in league and UCL, proactive high pressing game, smart tactics. Unless they change drastically as a team or get a very different coach in and philosophy he's in a great place right now. And he'll be with a core of youth growing with him. Very good situation
     
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  18. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    ???

    Wherever he wants to play.
     
  19. ttrevett

    ttrevett Member+

    Apr 2, 2002
    Atlanta, GA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Seems like he is really "at home" in Dortmund. He seems to have a great chemistry with his teammates, and has been with Passlack since his early youth days. His pops is there, his brother is there. He's not going anywhere. I bet he sees out his contract and when it comes time to renew, he'll see where he is then.
     
  20. Gacm32

    Gacm32 Member+

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    Switzerland
    Nov 28, 2010
    Geneva
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
     
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  21. la torre

    la torre Member+

    Dec 27, 2008
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Dortmund is a great place for him. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

    I do think he'll end up in the EPL if he continues along this path, though. An American star at a club like Liverpool would create TONS of new fans for them.
     
  22. y-lee-coyote

    y-lee-coyote Member+

    Dec 4, 2012
    Club:
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    Scouser interest is due to Klopp. Klopp was at BVB when CP signed.

    If I had a vote it would be that he not go anywhere. We are witnessing something special at Dortmund, and Christian is going to be a big part of that. I think Tuchel is one of his biggest fans, and as long as Dortmund is doing the job they are doing there is no reason for him to leave.

    Whatever his true level is, there is no, and I mean absolutely no, better place in the world for him to be to find out. If he can be Legend, Dortmund will give him that chance. I suppose that at some point he might would leave for some ridiculous salary, Messi, CR type 1 mil plus a week, but he is at least a few years from that.
     
  23. Dr.Phil

    Dr.Phil Member+

    Jan 18, 2004
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Tuchel is a better coach than Klopp
     
  24. Dr.Phil

    Dr.Phil Member+

    Jan 18, 2004
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Tuchel is a better coach than Klopp. Bundesliga is a better league than EPL. Dortmund is a better team than Liverpool
     
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  25. Bruce S

    Bruce S Member+

    Sep 10, 1999

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