Christian Pulisic at AC Milan

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  1. ttrevett

    ttrevett Member+

    Apr 2, 2002
    Atlanta, GA
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    I know BVB is anxious to be a "selling" club, but I don't think they'll be able to hold onto Dembele for more than 1 season after this if he stays as productive as he has been. How they do in the BL and the Cl this term might factor into it, but that kid is a beast at his age. With his physical attributes and talent, Real, Citeh and Barca will be calling pretty soon.
     
  2. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
    Tarpon Springs, FL
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    Bolivia
    Christian seems to have established himself as a rotation player. Getting solid minutes every week. He just needs to keep his head down and keep improving.
     
  3. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
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  4. Cris 09

    Cris 09 Trololololo

    Nov 30, 2004
    Westfalenstadion
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    All those teams can call as much as they want.

    Dembélé signed a five-year contract in May 2016, meaning he most definitely will stay with BVB for more than 1 season. End of the day - BVB can hold on to him until his contract runs out - they did it with Lewandowsky.
     
  5. TheFalseNine

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    Norman, Okla.
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    FC Dallas
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  6. Eighteen Alpha

    Eighteen Alpha Member+

    Aug 17, 2016
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    God that was awkward. CP needs to work on his comfort level behind the camera if he hopes to be a superstar ;)
     
  7. beerslinger23

    beerslinger23 Member+

    Jun 26, 2010
    Yeah a little bit. They both really light on their feet.
     
  8. ttrevett

    ttrevett Member+

    Apr 2, 2002
    Atlanta, GA
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    We'll see I guess. I doubt Dembele has any allegiance to BVB, and if the giants come calling with deeeeeep pockets, and BVB looks at what they have in depth, as well as Dembele saying to Tuchel that he would want to move, BVB might consider a big transfer fee.
     
  9. Cris 09

    Cris 09 Trololololo

    Nov 30, 2004
    Westfalenstadion
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I agree, if BVB wants to cash out and take the money, they can, but it is their choice, not Dembele's. If BVB wants to hold out for 5 seasons before letting him go, they can. It may affect their bottom line, but they can most certainly hold on to him for more than one season if he is producing results for the club - no matter what mega clubs comes calling.
     
  10. ttrevett

    ttrevett Member+

    Apr 2, 2002
    Atlanta, GA
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    I understand your point. Lewa was a little different. He was a model professional. He wanted to go to Bayern, but had enough respect for BVB to play out his contract at a high level and not gripe. Most players won't do that in this day and age. If they have 3-4 years remaining on a contract but want to go to the "bigger" club, of course they have no legal right to go, but can certainly gripe and moan and make the locker room a less happy place and mess with team chemistry. Of course BVB can say screw you to the player and to the other team, but in modern football, that doesn't happen often. Lewa was an anomaly.
     
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  11. smithfan

    smithfan Member+

    Aug 14, 2005
    Waimoana
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    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    The last influential player to leave Dortmund despite having more than 1 year left on his contract (and no release clause) was Mladen Petric ages ago...

    Dortmund has a clear philosophy when it comes to their star players and they've followed that philosophy for years now. Players can leave the club if they
    a) have the legal right to leave (due to expiration of contract or release clause)
    b) have only one year left on the contract and the club agrees to cash in instead of forcing the player to play out his contract.

    Every star player who has left Dortmund within the last years (Mkhitaryan, Lewandowski, Götze, Hummels, Kagawa, Sahin) falls into that category. The only players who can leave earlier are those that the club actually wants to let go because they've failed to impress during their time in Dortmund (Immobile, Perisic etc).

    No player currently has a release clause, Dortmund have eliminated all release clauses in the contracts of their players (they've paid Reus big money to remove the release clause), so you can pretty much know exactly when the players are going to leave... Dembele surely won't leave within the next years, he still has four years left on his contract.
     
  12. Cris 09

    Cris 09 Trololololo

    Nov 30, 2004
    Westfalenstadion
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I cannot say what was going through Lewa's head or what could be going through Dembele's head in the future in this theoretical situation. My point was, bitch and moan and gripe doesn't get many players very far and doesn't usually get them what they want, especially after just one year. C'mon, players that usually last just a year at their club is because both the club and the player want to null and void the contract.

    I could be wrong but I'm telling you now, if Dembele lights it up this season - he's not going anywhere next season.
     
  13. TheFalseNine

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    Jul 15, 2014
    Norman, Okla.
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    @smithfan, so glad you're back! What have you thought of our young Pulisic's meteoric rise?
     
  14. smithfan

    smithfan Member+

    Aug 14, 2005
    Waimoana
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Well, he plays like I hoped (and expected) he would play. He was a special talent, the type of player where everyone could see that he has all the tools to make it at a big club. I wasn't really worried either when he didn't play at the start of the season. He will get lots of playing time in this season and some of that playing time will be against top class opposition, although I don't expect him to start on Tuesday, to be honest.
     
  15. Gorky

    Gorky Member+

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    If he just plays against Real Madrid in the Champions League, I will be very happy.
     
  16. chalaron

    chalaron Member+

    Aug 15, 2006
    Baton Rouge, Louisia
    I think it would be pronounced "Uhhhh" lol

    Seriously though if someone were to take a stab at it, I'd guess it would be something like Widge-nal-dumb
     
  17. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
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    The secret to Dutch pronunciations... the "j" doesn't have any value in an "ij" combo. Wih-nal-dum is pretty close to how I hear announcers say it.
     
  18. uniteo

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    Sep 2, 2000
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    #5143 uniteo, Sep 26, 2016
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    because we know he's Dutch,

    Wijnaldum gets pronounced Wine-all-dum

    Second game of the group against Real at home, I think demands that you play your most experienced players unless you have a player who brings some quality nobody else on your team possesses which can be a real threat to RM.

    I think Dembele start and CP sits...and I don't really expect to see Pulisic play tomorrow but then outside a major cup final (UCL, UEFA, Copa, World Cup) this is the highest level of play there is (and he's still a pup).
     
  19. y-lee-coyote

    y-lee-coyote Member+

    Dec 4, 2012
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    Meh, IMO BVB are on the cusp of being just as deep pocketed as any club. If you look at their transfer dealings, they are crushing it. They didn't wake up this morning and decide they wanted to compete for silverware with the top 4 clubs in the world. They are not hurting for money and this last summers transfer dealings look a bit of genius. The guys out of that crew that end up surplus to needs can easily be sold for purchase price. Dembele looks to be an absolute steal. CP was next to nothing. Either one of those guys could easily bring what Dortmund paid for the whole lot of players this summer.

    If you look at their attacking corps and their ages, length of time left on contract, and it easy to see they are going to be a force to be reckoned with for a few years. I thought Miki leaving was really going to hurt, but thus far they have barely missed a beat. Miki misses Dortmund probably, but Dortmund are not missing him.

    I knew next to nothing about this club prior to CP. I have read and learned a great deal about them since he came on the scene. This club is not some rich mogul's toy. They are a real business, and they plan every single thing they do, probably with stereotypical ruthless German efficiency.

    I think if BVB makes a deep run in the CL, they will be able to come very close to anybody's salary offer. Dembele and Christian both chose to play for Dortmund. Neither player was begging offers, the big clubs were beating the door down. I don't believe the two players have any desire to be anywhere else.
     
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  20. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    Eric Wynalda is of Dutch ancestry, so his last name can be used as a guide.
     
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  21. chad

    chad Member+

    Jun 24, 1999
    Manhattan Beach
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    I'm pretty sure he's Frisian.

    :)
     
  22. Cris 09

    Cris 09 Trololololo

    Nov 30, 2004
    Westfalenstadion
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany

    For those that are interested on the financials - this is a good thread to follow on the Dortmund boards.

    http://forums.bigsoccer.com/threads...ney-the-old-fashioned-way-we-earn-it.1993080/
     
  23. bsky22

    bsky22 Member+

    Dec 8, 2003
    Dortmund has used 11 players for the 6 attacking positions this year. Auba may be out and Schurlle hasn't played since 9/10. That potentially drop the number to 9 for 6. Pulisic has gotten more minutes than Mor, played in each of the last 4 games while Mor has only played in 2 of those 4 games and i would rate his performances better. I'd think CP22 has a good chance to get on the field tomorrow.

    Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang Centre Forward 27 8 7 6 2 - - - - 2 2,14 613'
    Adrián Ramos Centre Forward 30 7 4 1 - - - - 2 1 1,50 199'

    Gonzalo Castro Central Midfield 29 8 8 3 6 1 - - 2 2 2,25 549'
    Julian Weigl Defensive Midfield 21 8 7 - - - - - 2 1 2,14 492'
    Sebastian Rode Central Midfield 25 7 1 - 2 - - 3 2 2,14 385'
    Shinji Kagawa Attacking Midfield 27 7 4 2 - - - - 1 - 2,25 296'
    Mario Götze Attacking Midfield 24 6 4 1 - 1 - - - 4 2,25 285'

    Ousmane Dembélé Right Wing 19 8 8 1 4 2 - - 1 5 2,25 554'
    André Schürrle Left Wing 25 4 4 1 2 1 - - 1 1 1,50 256'
    Christian Pulisic Attacking Midfield 18 7 4 1 3 - - - 1 1 3,00 251'
    Emre Mor Right Wing 19 7 5 1 - - - - 4 1 2,40 139'

    http://www.transfermarkt.com/borussia-dortmund/leistungsdaten/verein/16/reldata/&2016/plus/1
     
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  24. Bruce S

    Bruce S Member+

    Sep 10, 1999
    I agree. Its not like BVB is poor-AND they have won the CL. People sometimes act like they are some random Dutch club. As I posted awhile ago: Never change a winning game!
     
  25. bballshawn

    bballshawn Member+

    Feb 5, 2014
    Delaware
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    schurrle is back in training, so is Auba.
     

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