Chicago Fire vs Jeff Curtin's Brother; Saturday September 3rd 7:30 PM (CSN Chicago Plus)

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  1. Jdgedwill

    Jdgedwill Member+

    Jun 15, 2013
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    My order of importance is:

    1. Goals scored
    2. Goals conceded

    These are the 2 most important statistics because they are the only stats that determine the end result. I listed goals scored as number 1 because you can still win if you conceded goals but you can't win if you haven't scored any goals.

    The rest of the stats are more measures of how good a team is fundamentally.

    3. Shots on goal
    4. Posession
    5. Shots

    I listed posession over shots because a piss poor team can play long balls and boot it over the goal forcing shots. A team who maintains posession is likely controlling the game. A team that relies on counter attack and gives up possession against every team they play has a weak midfield.
     
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  2. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
    To me, the end result isn't always the most important aspect of a game.
     
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  3. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
    As much as this post might piss off @Kawal_Huja98 it's unfortunately 100% accurate.

     
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  4. lncolnpk

    lncolnpk Member+

    Mar 5, 2012
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    How many starters was Philly missing?
     
  5. Jdgedwill

    Jdgedwill Member+

    Jun 15, 2013
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You're sounding like CDLC now. Remember when he said playing pretty soccer was more important than even winning?
     
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  6. Downloaf

    Downloaf Member

    Aug 20, 2014
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
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  7. HeyFireGO

    HeyFireGO Member+

    May 12, 2007
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    PM me you pv55y
     
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  8. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
    Would you accept winning MLS Cup by paying off the officials? I wouldn't. Winning isn't the epitome of the game.
     
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  9. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    I would argue that paying off the officials would not be winning.

    Winning is the epitome of the game, and the ultimate aim of sport , but it is NOT the only thing.

    One of the many things about which Vince Lombardi was wrong.
     
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  10. Saeyddthe

    Saeyddthe Member

    Sep 5, 2003
    St. Looney ^the CB&J

    Yes, I definitely would. Not only would I "accept" it, I would revel in it.

    I would have a ********ing banner flying at kickoff and make the center ref wear a "WE PAID FOR THIS AND YOU DIDN'T SO GO ******** YOURSELF" headband.
    I would make my employee Don Garber come on at halftime and tell everybody the final score and exhale a big puff of Cubano smoke into the camera and say, "There's your halftime, bitches!"
    Red Cards would have the Fire badge on them...sponsored by The Chicago Fire.

    Would I pay for it?
    ******** yeah. That's what salaries and shit are anyway. I'm not Andrew Hauptman after all.
     
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  11. Gamecock14

    Gamecock14 Member+

    May 27, 2010
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Sean Johnson deserves to go somewhere else where he won't lose his job for going to national team camp. It's not that Lampson's bad, Johnson is better. Johnson deserves better than what he dealt with this year.
     
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  12. lncolnpk

    lncolnpk Member+

    Mar 5, 2012
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #162 lncolnpk, Sep 7, 2016
    Last edited: Sep 7, 2016

    I got into a SJ discussion on twitter last night. The Pauno / Lampson defenders came
    out of the woodwork. Can't believe people don't appreciate SJ.
     
  13. Lampson may not be bad, but he's not that good either and isn't better than Sean John, the #1 for next year's Atlanta United.
     
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  14. goldclover

    goldclover Member+

    Mar 25, 2010
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    I sure hope we keep the Milkman.
     
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  15. FrenFan

    FrenFan Member

    Jul 16, 2010
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Arguing with the Lampsom people is like talking to a Scientologist.
     
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  16. danimal60914

    danimal60914 Member

    May 15, 2013
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    I don't think officials take TAM/GAM.
     
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  17. Jdgedwill

    Jdgedwill Member+

    Jun 15, 2013
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I honestly almost posted the same response.

    So no bunge that wouldn't be more important but that isn't winning to me either.
     
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  18. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
    Then we agree that "winning" is more than just the amalgamation of goals scored and goals conceded.
     
  19. Saeyddthe

    Saeyddthe Member

    Sep 5, 2003
    St. Looney ^the CB&J
    I still think you're kinda conflating the two things.
    "winning" is defeating your opponents.
    What you want is to be able to codentify with a team that is doing that.

    I wouldn't mind just paying really good players that I like a lot of money to play for us.
    That's still buying a title, I suppose...neh?

    Paying off the refs? I really would do that, but I would make sure everyone knew it.
    I like a good cackle... ;)
     
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  20. seamuslush

    seamuslush Member+

    Jun 18, 2005
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    My requirements:

    - all bribe money for referees must be delivered to the PRO employee on the field, inside a comically large money bag with a dollar sign imprinted on the exterior, 5-10 minutes prior to kickoff.
    - all bribe money for referees must be delivered by one of the following: 1) a fat, comically disheveled man wearing a flat cap while mumbling about Arnold Rothstein; 2) a mustache twirling Snidely Whiplash impersonator; 3) Pascal Bedrossian in a tracksuit.
     
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  21. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
    Quite frankly, this forum and our moderators should just shut down after this point.
     
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  22. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    I didn't think so.

    You are talking about integrity.

    That is not the same as winning.

    Your argument is that integrity is more important than winning.

    Perhaps, you are correct.
    Perhaps not.

    Regardless, it is an interesting concept.
     
  23. SixKick

    SixKick Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 13, 2000
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    I accept payments to referees as long as they come in the form of worn Blanco jerseys. But only payable after good referee performance.
     

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