El indecido me molesta, si no me quiero, Transfer Thead 2016

We discussed at the time that quotes about having to money to spend were nonsense - the club couldn't say at the time that money wasn't available to spend, now could it?

Quotes from 2013, iirc, confirmed what we all think was the case: money really wasn't available to spend.

1. Alonso wasn't that great at Liverpool. He got a lot better when he went to Real.
2. Don't think it was a question of valuation - there wasn't a whole lot of money available to spend, as evidenced by what Arsenal spent then and what it's spending now.

 

Why were Arsenal dead last in the league in net transfer spending between 2006 and 2013? And why was Arsenal's net transfer spend negative between 2006 and 2013? And why have Arsenal spent ~250 million quid (net!) since the summer of 2013?

What you're suggesting is inconsistent with Arsenal's behavior.

 

100m in the bank does not equal 100m to spend. It doesn't even equal 50m to spend.

 

Quotes confirming? ...can you grab them please. A serious request.

Again, we are talking about a few million quid here. I'm not saying we could afford to buy 18m players all over the place. But if AW valued him at liver pools asking of 18m instead of 14m or whatever, we could have made that happen.

So by your logic we didn't have money to spend last summer either since we didn't spend much money.

You say Alonso wasn't great but that Arsene didn't buy him because of lack of funding not him being overpriced?

 

I can have multiple opinions about why a transfer didn't happen

Alonso wasn't that great at Liverpool (and I thought at the time the reason the deal fell through was because Liverpool couldn't get Barry, the quotes I've seen here are news to me).

Link:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/arsenal-boss-arsene-wenger-ready-4844370

 

He was also managed by Rafa, to be fair.

 

Okay. So it's because a) Alonso wasn't good enough and b) we didn't have the money and c) pool couldn't get Barry. Gotcha.

I like mine better: Arsene thought Alonso was worth XX and not a penny more. Liverpool disagreed. As Alonso said "the clubs couldn't agree".

18m for Alonso would not have put the club "at danger" in 2008. We bought both arshavin and nasri in this time period for not too much less.

 

18m was too much when he had a bunch of other midfielders he believed in. If we didn't have them at the time, I doubt Wenger hesitates, he just gets his man. But with a bunch of prospects at the club already, that money was better spent elsewhere.

This is such revisionist history.

 

No it's not? Simply because you refuse to spend does not mean you are cash strapped. We spent nothing last summer--why? Because AW couldn't find a player he thought would bring added value to the squad. He thought Jack, Ramsey and arteta were going to be enough at CM. He was wrong and now we have elneny and xhaka. It wasn't because we didnt have the money.

 

Didn't say it did. We are talking about why he wouldn't spend the extra few million quid to meet liverpools valuation on Alonso, not why he didn't buy messi.

 

Because we had a bunch of bodies on the payroll already! How is this that hard?! So he was wrong in the end, okaay. You can go back and microscope a million things if you want to, for any manager.

 

A London East onenif the first and best dlp in the prem

Mebe your talking shite about him as a player but I agree with the cost being too much st the time for wenger

 

For 18m only.. What would have been.

 

Yes. That's what I said. AW rated what he had more than Alonso at liverpools price. It wasn't that we couldn't afford Alonso. Simply that AW didn't see value in the move at that price.

 

That's part of the problem. Denilson was never half the player of Xabi but Wenger has a blind spot when it comes to honestly assessing his own players. See Walcott. See Wilshere. See Arteta. And the list can go on forever ...

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Kos and Giroud and arguably Monreal but that's pretty much it

 

Kos is the only one on your list in that class. Apart from Hleb all of the players in his list either came through our youth at least for a time or were bought as unknowns. Only Hleb had a proven track record.

Giroud was top scorer in France, Monreal was an established La Liga talent with Spanish NT caps to his name.

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Arshavin was a panic buy when Arsenal were sitting in sixth (and had been for a while). I'm curious to know how the club financed that deal. I remember it taking forever to get done.

Nasri was paid for with the proceeds of the Hleb sale, and that deal was done very early in that window.

Also, there's a difference between saying Alonso wasn't "good enough" and Alonso being not that great at Liverpool. He was obviously a better player for Spain in 2008, and a much better player for Spain and Real after. And 18 million would have been the club record by some distance at the time.

 

it's hard to dredge up now because our most recent memories of denilson was the sluggish midfielder whose every pass was short and backward but, prior to everton, while he was getting the metronomic cycling of the ball down, he was not always a waste of an offensive possession. he had good vision and passing range and, unlike diaby and song, he was not prone to hospital ball-itis. and, while denilson was never going to be lauded for athleticism, he seemed to have been picking up the interception and tactical foul concepts from gilberto. and then gilberto was gone and he was broken. so that was that.

 

running theme, no?

 

You are viewing everything through the lense of struggling Arsenal crawling up to the table and begging for crumbs.

We didn't fund the nasri transfer by selling hleb. By all accounts, AW and Arsenal didn't want to sell hleb, he wanted to leave so we got the most we could for him. It wasn't about money except that more money might have convinced him to stay. Reyes, Ade, clichy, nasri, sagna, song, Henry, cesc, RVP, etc, etc. All were sold bc they wanted to leave. Arsene then went and bought replacement players he thought were good value or promoted youth players because that's what Arsene does.

As I've posted twice before on this forum, the proceeds from those net player sales during those years went straight into the bank. The club didn't need the money for operations and AW decided not to spend it because he is Arsene and he had better ideas just like last summer.

 

http://www.skysports.com/football/n...toure-but-move-would-be-impossible-says-agent

Player seeks new home where he can walk around pitch for 88 minutes and earn 250k per week. Any team considered.

 

The chances of Wenger signing Yaya Toure are 0%... at most. Gotta love English journos.