Agreed. This isn't the same championship from even five years ago. The amount of money and investment that now goes into the championship is just unreal. They compete with midtable French clubs, and bottom table Spanish/English/German clubs for talent. Just a small snapshot of how comparison to the MLS just isn't there right not. Rafa Benitez went from coaching Real Madrid to Newcastle. 12 clubs have stadia with attendances over 30k 18 of the 24 clubs last season had tickets priced at 35 pounds (45 dollars). Don't compare to the MLS. Think about if a AAA team in baseball charged that much money. because that is the real comparison. Newcastle themselves had four transfers in that cost 5 million pounds and two transfers that were over 10 million pounds. Think about how many clubs are now owned by very, very wealthy people. Shef Wed, Wolves, Cardiff City, Fulham, etc And I like the MLS! It's just the growth has diluted the quality of play and the salary cap hasn't been increased to a point where the teams can truly be competitive on a depth basis with the championship.
1. Newcastle were in the EPL when he started, they didn't lose any money by going down. They're still a rich club because of all the money in the EPL. 2. Certainly they aren't filling them. http://www.soccerstats.com/attendance.asp?league=england2. Yes, I know it's early, but I'm going to bet that there won't be 12 teams that average 30k attendance, or anywhere close to that. The bottom certainly looks closer to Chicago than LA in terms of attendance. 3. Simple google search indicates that your impression of AAA tickets seems to be flawed. Although you can certainly get lots of cheaper tickets, and I'm sure there are differences depending on the market, but here's 2 AAA tickets that I found for 75 bucks, and they were the only two tickets still on sale today (at least on StubHub). http://www.stubhub.com/sacramento-r...false&qtyq=false&sType=BLENDED&sort=price+asc But perhaps you meant "avg" seating price, which is fine. FYI, decent seats for a game at Avaya for me have been ~45-55 bucks. 4. Once again, yes, they have money. They don't suddenly lose money by going down. QPR has always spent lavishly, before it was cool. Going up/down does nothing to their spending habits, I imagine the same would be said for an EPL club newly-relegated. 5. That's true, there have been a rash of rich people buying clubs. Though, that said, I think MLS is mostly full of clubs owned by rich people, they just artificially restrict themselves and their spending in order to *I think* make a profit. I mean, you're not wrong about how much money is flowing there, but the quality of play isn't really going up very much, and the lower-end is still terrible. Money going to the top teams who fight for promotion every year (parachute payments/rich owners, etc.) isn't going to trickle down to teams like Brentford or Burton Albion anytime soon.
Don't you admittedly never watch MLS? I believe you underrate MLS by a lot, if you think arguing it's only a little worse than a Championship at this point is majorly overrating it. You know they've made a lot of improvements in the last few years with monetary investment and infrastructure, right? Maybe you should give it another shot, and then can have an informed perspective about how it compares to other leagues. We're talking about a 2nd tier here in the Championship. What I said shouldn't be considered remotely provocative. The cream of American talent, and a lot of the region's, rises to the top of the American system. There's much more competition for talent and scouting around England, and the cream there rises to the EPL. I don't know. We're really not supposed to get into it much here. It is a sidetrack. Championship is worse than we were hoping for or expecting, and if that's what he'll ultimately take, he should have went to the BL for a year. That was a better offer football-wise. As far as the paycheck goes, he's already under contract with Chelsea. I never suggested he get his contract ripped up and go back to MLS. I suggested he might as well take a loan back there for a year, if he's not going to play in the Championship even, or play for a CLEARLY worse than MLS league below like League One. He'd be on his Chelsea contract, wherever he goes.
i don't disagree completely. Sure make good choices,and for example Jordan Morris would be a fool to go Barcelona expecting to get minutes. But i will say i think there are far too many that expect a player to go to a situation where there will be very little competition, where they won't have to beat anybody that's good out. Personally, i expect everything to be hard. I expect to beat out great people to be great. And WITHIN REASON i'd think i'm beating out any chump they put in front of me as competition.
I do give it a go every once in a while, but seldom does a game interest me much. I watched Stoke under Pulis, and despite all the negative footy I still found it interesting. Sunderland with Josmer not so much, but under Allardyce with DY it was nearly compelling at the end with the relegation battle and all. I like relegation and cup structure more than playoffs. That is one part of my preference for almost any league oveer MLS and the other is the fact that at any given time there will be 8-10 guys on the field who can barely trap a ball. An example would be Geoff Cameron who would likely be an all star in MLS. He is a squad player in the EPL. He does start most games, but he plays the defensive position that the regular starter is hurt or needing some rest. I think the best of MLS would be lower tier championship. The best of MLS might yoyo up to the top half or even promotion to the PL, but at their current level of player I doubt they could survive. The championship has some younger talent that is looking to impress for a paycheck and a few teams are looking to hit the jackpot with promotion. I don't have any data so I might be way off, but I believe that there is a pretty good correlation between dominance in the championship and at least moderate success in the PL. I know that as of late the correlation between MLS best eleven and PL level player has not been good.
While I think these debates are somewhat silly, you do lose credibility thinking he's a squad player filling in for their regular starters. He is Stoke City's regular starter playing 35, 37, 27 and 30 regular season games over the last 4 seasons. Missing almost all because of injury or rest and not due to coaches decision.
As has been said before, it depends on the quality of the loan. Some loans (Christensen) end well. Some, like Kalas, aren't actually bad - Kalas has started a lot of games. Given that CBs mature later than at any other position, that game time is important for him, even if it's not at Chelsea. He did enough to be a sub in one of the Czech's Euro qualifiers.
He really does not have a regular position and I did note he starts most of the time. I have watched nearly every game he has played since he donned the Potter kit, and he has played most of the field positions at one time or another. He probably has the most starts at Rb followed by CB and then MF. It is probably more CB under Sparky than it was Tone. Nevertheless he is a utility player and perhaps that is more correctly stated than squad player. He is more of fill in where needed starter, than an outright won a starting position at X spot. Sort of 1A at three spots.
Leeds just signed Pontus Jansson - a 6'5" Swedish national central defender - on loan from Torino. So, there's that.
Ok maybe change it to has slowed the increase in quality of play? I think that's what I should have said.
Really? Has it been 10 years since you've "given it a go"? That's a ridiculous statement that shows your bias. I'm guessing that, when an EPL player mishandles the ball, there's some great reason you have (or the announcer provides you) for why he couldn't handle it, but that's not a reflection on his overall quality as a player nor the league. If Geoff Cameron has started 30+ games each year filling in for injured starters then, WOW, that's perhaps the most injury-prone team ever. Also, he's a defender, so he plays defensive positions. Do you value offensive positions more? The issue with Miazga in the Championship, to me, would be that many closer observers than me say that the Championship lacks finesse and quality passing--largely hoof-ball. If he's ever going to play for Chelsea, they will definitely want him to be a fantastic passer out of the back. I'm sure there are some teams in the Championship that could be a good fit in terms of continuing this aspect of development (plus giving game experience), but that seems difficult to achieve on account of the rarity. But please correct me if I'm wrong, as this is anecdotal on my part--I have watched but a handful of Championship games over the last several years.
It looks like Matt Miazga isn't going to Leeds United as some suspect. In fact, the EFL Championship club acquired defender Pontus Jansson on loan from the Serie A football club Torino. The Swedish defender's main position is center-back. Check out @lufc's Tweet: We are delighted to announce the signing of defender @PJansson5 on a season-long loan from @TorinoFC_1906! #lufc pic.twitter.com/O0Id4xsw1P— Leeds United (@LUFC) August 18, 2016 Check out @lufc's Tweet: Here’s the full story as Swedish international @PJansson5 becomes our tenth summer signing: https://t.co/Ej0g84mCL4 pic.twitter.com/v3Vnl33Djl— Leeds United (@LUFC) August 18, 2016 CONFIRMED: Leeds United seal loan signing of Sweden international Jansson [Published: 12:00AM BST (7:00PM EDT); Updated: 10:19AM BST (5:19AM EDT)] http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co....ing-of-sweden-international-jansson-1-8074692 Originally, more than few Leeds United supporters almost instantly though it was the American International player was going to join this club with a question mark through the social media, at least on Twitter. But, later on, it wasn't the case as it slowly emerged that it was the Swedish international player, and the football club made the official announcement. Sent from my SM-G920V using Tapatalk
The fact he plays a few positions does not mean he fills in for their regular starters, which was your main point. He is not a squad player he is a lockdown starter for a mid table team in arguably the best league in the world. He's played RB for long stretches, he has played CB for long stretches. Rarely does he play DM. You are wrong. He has locked down a starting position. It has been at RB and CB for many games in a row. Trying to minimize Cameron's accomplishments helps you none in trying to compare Championship football with MLS. Move on to other points.
Maybe Blackburn will come calling for Matt. Shane Duffy, a starting CB has 3 OG' s and one RC in their last two matches.
Why is everyone just disregarding the actual report from an actual writer at ESPN that he Eintracht didn't happen because there were two EPL teams after him and Chelsea wanted him in the EPL?
Uh oh. "The Chelsea defender Matt Miazga, meanwhile, has been offered to Sunderland on a season-long loan." https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/aug/18/younes-kaboul-watford-sunderland-transfer
As far as it being Chelsea rejecting the Frankfurt move, they'd have less incentive to do so, and there's been conflicting reports whose decision it was. Chelsea HQ @Chelsea_HQ Aug 12 Watford has made a bid for Kenedy while Matt Miazga will reject Eintracht Frankfurt after receiving offers from Premier League teams. [Goal] I'll be pleased if he ends up in the EPL after the more recent Championship reports, but this is saying Chelsea has offered up Miazga to Sunderland, not the other way around. Also, it looks like he'd have a good shot for plenty of starts. It would likely be between Kone, another former Chelsea man in Djilobodji, and Matt.