After I read this story: http://www.soccerbyives.net/soccer_...lks-trade-future-with-new-york-red-bulls.html I realized that the Dax for DeRo was a good trade for the Red Bulls. Yes DeRo scored a lot of goals for DC last year after he was traded and Dax didn't transition so well initially but this year that trade is starting to pay didvidends. Dax has been playing great as a D-mid for the Bulls and DeRo has not replicated his form with DC so far this year. Plus I think that Dax has become a leader on and off the field. After reading many stories about Dax talking about helping the team and the story on the Pearce trade above (and noted that Dax went to pick up Pearce at the airport and has helped him settle in very quickly), I became convinced that perhaps Dax is the glue that holds this team together. Something that an egomaniac like DeRo could never be. What do you think? Would you rather still have DeRo?
With Tainio hurt and Rafa too lazy to play defense, we need Dax more than we need DeRo. he is leading the league in assists (7) and has 3 goals, despite the fact that we agree that we need Dax more than DeRo, I'm still not sure we got fair value in the trade.
Yeah, I don't think the argument was ever that Dax was the better or more productive player, just that Hans thought he would fit our system better than De Rosario (aka won't get in Henry's way)
I like Dax since he got here. Met him and he is a good guy. What we gave up for him wasn't worth it. Could have gotten him for less, but I do like him.
I don't think that Dax is a great players, he is a standard MLS good player, that compare with the maligned job that Marquez is doing over there look like Essien or a 1970s Cobaldo, his best role on the actual RBNY Team is as a "Destroyer" but he is out of balance making a poor cover up of the right side of the field, now as a holding Mid fielder isn't to bad, but he need extend his range a little more that once 100 years ago look like Marquez has it, but now beside the head each that he has converted him self, he hasn't any more....
DeRo is a top 5 MLS player of all-time so it's hard to say the trade was fair. What is true is that Dax has been great for us this year and has had the biggest impact on the team besides a healthy Henry. I really hope Dax stays with us for a long time, I can envision him being the anchor of the midfield for the next 5-10 years and a future NYRB captain..
DeRo overall is a great MLS player. I am not disputing that but as iced1776 said he just didn't fit in well with the Bulls whereas with some time Dax (as you said) has had the biggest impact on the team except a healthy Titi.
I don't want to even think about the Dero trade and the weird situation we were in last year. I don't want to focus on that. Let's focus on the positive. Dax has excelled in the d-mid role and he has been key this season. Especially playing in front of a young back line. He's had a very good season so far and hope it continues.
Dax at Def mid is perfect for our team and solid game after game. Put him up at C mid and he is mediocre. Let's hope Hans keeps him at def mid even when Crapa Marquez comes back.
Is a refreshment to see him playing hard for us, and look gigant over there because no body was expecting this kind of game from him when we got him, and for all the demons, of course he has been and is better than the Ro for us....
DeRo was actually good for us, he didn't play to his standards but he was still solid nonetheless. We also gave up on him rather quickly, it would be similar to us getting rid of Dax in the offseason. But Dax has been playing great so the trade was good for both sides. We'll most likely find our "#10"(not ballouchy lol) this summer so that's definitely going to be a positive
Exactly, like I say is a refreshment for a change, because we was expecting so much from De Ro and get so little and we have not expecting anything from Dax and get a lot, ....it is what make this so great and not because he is better than De Ro, but for us it is the greatest one of both...... What happen really is, that we was expecting from Marquez a Holding Midfielder that will stop the attackers and in a strategic way initiate our attack and we have not getting any of that from him, De Ro isn't a Holding MF he is a kind of attacking midfielder that don't work for us, now McCarty is a destroyer that stop the attack of the other team giving chance to the rest of the team to do they thing. McCarty has been a guy in between the agony of defeat and the joy of a wining and that make him so great in a mediocre team like the one that who for five game has giving us so much satisfaction....But his days are over, now that the elite team is coming back, Backe will think that we don't need a destroyer any more, that the technical and "bonito" futbol will impose his game in a league so inefficient and rude like MLS and McCarty will be a surplus of one day feel of joy and glory....
if you face the facts...Dax (among others) really didn't play well: http://www.bigapplesoccer.com/teams/redbulls2.php?article_id=43403 For the most part we didn't play well," he said after the Red Bulls' 1-0 win over the Crew in the aggregate goals series. "For the entire series I just thought we were outplayed for most of the series. Outplayed, outworked, outcoached. I thought Columbus deserved to advance." McCarty was far from finished. "On the attacking end, we just weren't good enough," he said, adding that the Red Bulls "didn't create many chances, weren't sharp with the ball in the final third. Columbus, they gave up a lot of goals this year. Defensively, they looked fragile going into the playoffs, but they defended very well. You have to give them a lot of credit. we had no ideas in the final third. It's tough to take right now."
Legit, what I have been saying for months now. RBNY really need to consider a true #10 - someone with ideas and creativity in the final third.
Its a shame we lost Peguy, he was the closest we've had recently. I like Kljestan as the team's unconventional #10 though, the last two game's were frustrating but it worked for most of the season.
We had enough attacking talent to beat Cbus. We simply fell asleep for 9 seconds, got out-coached, and the team as a whole played kind of flat (fatigue from the regular season high press marathon?).
Potentially. To me though, we seemed to lack ideas, creativity. But to your point, success wa there throughout the season.
One thing to keep in mind is that both Tchani and Trapp played out of their minds this series, probably the best I've seen a CM pairing play all season for any team. A more creative player may have been able to pull some magic out of nothing, but it would have been really tough to play through the middle regardless of who we had in there. I think a target striker would have helped even more than a more than a traditional #10. Sometimes you can only do so much with the other team clogging the middle of the field, so if you're stuck playing in crosses you might as well have someone in there who is taller than 5'8". I hope Abang turns into a more consistent option next year.
Wow - this is a bump. I thought it was a bummer that Dax was being outplayed by Tchani but over the last few years, Tony couldn't have given this team what Dax has. Hindsight being 20/20, you'd probably rather have Tchani now?
I always liked Tchani and thought he was great as a youngsster with us when he paired with the Mexican idot.
we'll miss you Dax...good luck in Chicago: http://www.fourfourtwo.com/us/news/...ed-bulls?utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=Social