Geoff Cameron at Queens Park Rangers

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  1. justinpaul10

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  2. The Potter

    The Potter Member+

    Aug 26, 2004
    England
    Club:
    Stoke City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Yeah exactly, he's a godsend. Stoke have a pretty good first xi now but so do a lot of teams, depth is where you can really tell the haves from the have nots, so to have a player like Cameron is fantastic. I think he's one of the best utility players in England.
     
  3. The Irish Rover

    The Irish Rover Member+

    Aug 1, 2010
    Dublin
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic

    Godsend???

    At first blush you think that's way overblown. Bu think about it, when was the last time Geoff got owned in a game?

    Exactly.

    Add to that, the positions he plays - RB, CB (either of them) and DM - are crucial to the grubby unglamourous work of not actually losing the damned game, and Godsend is only a touch hyperbolic.

    It's a bit like when Brian Clough shelled out the then-insane amount of 650k sterling for Peter Shilton. Nobody paid that much for goalkeepers, but Clough was unmoved; "Peter Shilton wins you matches" was he answer. A little bit of that applies to the quality utility player, and that's Geoff to a T.
     
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  4. wixson7

    wixson7 Member+

    May 12, 2009
    boulder
    Got his first preseason game in on Monday, started and played 60 minutes in 5-0 win vs Orlando City B team. Starting lineup a bit confusing but looked to start in CB with Shaw and Wolly?, but subbed by CM Imbula. So not sure the formation.

    STOKE CITY: Given (Haugaard 60); Bardsley (Wilson 60), Cameron (Imbula 60), Shawcross (Muniesa 60), Wollscheid (Arnautovic 30), Pieters (Taylor 60); Whelan (Adam 60), Allen (Shenton 60); Bojan (Diouf 60), Shaqiri (N'Goy 60), Crouch (Joselu 30 (Waring 30)).
     
  5. sidefootsitter

    sidefootsitter Member+

    Oct 14, 2004
    Hughes said that he might try 3-5-2/5-3-2 this season, just to have more tactical flexibility.

    IMO, right wingback in GCam's best position on the field. He can race up and down the flank, fill the gaps, man-mark and all without being close to either penalty box. Which is where his problems begin.
     
  6. The Irish Rover

    The Irish Rover Member+

    Aug 1, 2010
    Dublin
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
    Interesting pre-season profile of Stoke at the Guardian. While they're optimistic about Stoke's options going forward there is a heavy focus is on Stoke's defensive weaknesses:


    Stoke’s more-attractive attacking style seems to have come at the cost of defensive solidity and for that there is no acceptable reason. It seems a symptom of flawed organisation or concentration rather than a necessary trade-off for swish forward play. The injuries certainly did not help, with the long absence of Ryan Shawcross particularly debilitating, but even when Stoke were at full strength Jack Butland was busier than he should have been until he, too, was injured in March. Marc Wilson, signed by Pulis in 2010, deepened concerns last weekend when he held a Q&A session with fans on Twitter and seemed to lament the loss of the club’s defensive rigour, claiming “it would help if we ever did any defensive training – which we don’t”.
    https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/aug/09/premier-league-2016-17-preview-stoke-city
     
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  7. Sam Hamwich

    Sam Hamwich Member+

    Jul 11, 2006
    He sounds defensive to me...
     
  8. BostonRed

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    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  9. wixson7

    wixson7 Member+

    May 12, 2009
    boulder
    Bummer.
     
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  11. wixson7

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    May 12, 2009
    boulder
  12. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    why in the world is Given starting?
     
  13. comoesa

    comoesa Member+

    Aug 13, 2010
    Christen Press's armpit
    Nat'l Team:
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  14. sidefootsitter

    sidefootsitter Member+

    Oct 14, 2004
    Butland must still be recuperating from his injury.
     
  15. justinpaul10

    justinpaul10 Member+

    Sep 2, 2013
    Only possible explanation as Butland is miles ahead
     
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  16. deuteronomy

    deuteronomy Member+

    Angkor Siem Reap FC
    United States
    Aug 12, 2008
    at the pitch
    Club:
    Siem Reap Angkor FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
     
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  17. sidefootsitter

    sidefootsitter Member+

    Oct 14, 2004
    'Boro were outplaying them early. Negrego-Downing-Ramirez-Adomah had an excellent first half. Off the intervals I saw, Bardsley was having all sort of problems against Downing. Glen Johnson must still be hurt.
     
  18. neems

    neems Member+

    Liverpool FC
    United States
    Apr 14, 2009
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Cameron on the bench for match against Manchester City.
     
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  19. wixson7

    wixson7 Member+

    May 12, 2009
    boulder
    Stayed on the bench. 0 minutes in 2 games. Not too worried given his versatility, one injury or bad games from a few starters will get him back in. Hate to see him sitting though.
     
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  20. thedukeofsoccer

    thedukeofsoccer Member+

    Jul 11, 2004
    Wussconsin
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He was sick last game. Not sure about this one, but could still be recovering, and the performance against the back 4 today can't hurt his chances. It sucked compared to last year at Brittania.
     
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  21. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    Cam has a decent number of miles on him. Less than 38 games this year would not hurt him tbh. Maybe 20 - 25 for the old man.
     
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  22. Gorky

    Gorky Member+

    Jul 28, 2006
    NYC
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    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Starts (at RB?) in the EFL Cup.
     
  23. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    i've this funny feeling Geoff is gonna end up racking up more appearances in England than any other non-GK American
     
  24. Gorky

    Gorky Member+

    Jul 28, 2006
    NYC
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    New York Red Bulls
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    United States
    Looks like CB
     
  25. Mt Stone@

    Mt Stone@ Member

    Apr 30, 2016
    USA
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Maybe. The man is an athletic 6'3" with excellent ball control, technical ability, decent passing range, as well as an understanding for and ability to play nearly half the positions on the pitch at a high level. Extremely underrated player by those of us around here.
     

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