El indecido me molesta, si no me quiero, Transfer Thead 2016

Not really. Jumbo shrimp. Larger half. Seriously funny. Deafening silence. Those are oxymorons.

You might just mean that it's not true.

 

Getting a little tired of this. It's a thread about transfers and transfer issues. Of course some people are going to say "spend some money."

 

i get it.

my girlfriend got bit a few times as she attracts mosquitos more than me.

Its coming to the US, so its kinda meh at this point for me.

 

You shouldn't be, because you're among the chief culprits. My point is that the premise of these posts, that Wenger is somehow cheap, and that the club does not spend money, is not true. As has been repeatedly pointed out.

 

I strongly disagree with this. He frequently plays guys who are "in the red zone" even by his own admission. Our injury rate was abysmal until Forsythe came in, and now it's just below average.

 

Perhaps, but that wasn't my point - my point is that Wenger does pay attention to the risks, and to the extent that players have been played while in the "red zone," that's a function of not having proper depth. Our depth in the midfield is better this season (hopefully), but pity Giroud and Alexis.

 

I've been saying this for a lot more than one season, though, and I'm not the only one that theorized this when information about the new TV deal came through (because English clubs could now buy good players from the likes of Valencia, for example). Perhaps next season will be different?

Fair points, and perhaps a wait and see approach is warranted as to whether the Premier League will revert to it's haves/have nots structure. I don't think it will.

They matched (and Southamption bettered) United's goal difference, and both sides scored more than United too. Ditto Chelsea.

No argument that Arsenal were poor after the Leicester game, but they were poor before the Leicester game too - the underlying data was that of a mid-table side after Cazorla got hurt, and the issue seems to be because the play slowed down too much (and I think this is why I'm lukewarm on Elneny, though he may be better after a full preseason with the squad). I think this is a weakness that's been addressed with the addition of Xhaka. Though we'll know more by the first interlull.

 

Chambers needs a solid loan move. He has good skill and probably just enough athleticism to make a good CB, but his mistakes are very drastic. He needs to be able to get past these mistakes away from the spotlight of a volatile arSenal fan base.

Two own goals in one season for a bench player is tough on a kid. At RB he is exposed to wingers pace--I bet he still sees Jefferson Montero in his sleep.

 

It's not just Cesc and Nasri. None of our home-grown midfielders are good defensively. All the way from the Denilson/Song/Diaby class to the Ox/Walcott/Ramsey generation. And they all have similar weaknesses. They don't sense danger. They don't track runs. Contrast them with a natural defender like Sagna. A world of difference.

There's also the case of defenders. Name one defender Wenger successfully developed. Wenger couldn't even get a first-teamer like Vermaelen to defend properly.

Ashley Cole is the one exception, and even he improved his defending tremendously with Chelsea. Dixon had this to say:

"George [Graham] drilled us into very knowledgeable individuals, and a defence that could almost play with its eyes shut. I don't know whether Arsene could do that. Well he couldn't. That's not his style, he is not that knowledgeable about the defensive side of the game. He doesn't push people around on the training pitch; he creates environments.

A perfect example of that is Ashley Cole. Ash couldn't defend to save his life when he got into the Arsenal team - and he'd agree with me. But he had arguably one of the best coaches around for him in Tony Adams standing next to him.

Tony had [Ashley Cole] on a piece of string. Arsene didn't coach him once. Arsene doesn't particularly know whether the left back is in the right position or not. But he knows that Tony knows. So he put Ash next to Tony and said, have a look at him. That blend of experience is the perfect platform for Arsene to do his stuff."

Wenger is not alone. Apparently, http://www.espnfcasia.com/blog/tact...ter-city-likely-regret-selling-jerome-boatenghttp://www.espnfcasia.com/blog/tact...ter-city-likely-regret-selling-jerome-boateng

"Guardiola discovered Boateng is totally self-taught," writes Perarnau. "The young German defender has been explaining that no one has ever shown him how to defend. In fact, Boateng confesses that he didn't even know that the defensive line could be organized. He thought that every player defended instinctively."

 

Word. Think he needs a loan, but may not get it, depending on the severity of the Mertesacker injury.

 

I thought statement was contradictory
If you win window- presumably your players played great to win league

 

Indeed... My wife Is same way - still won't stop me from river canoe trips in upper Wisconsin with the lads

 

With all criticism of wenger on tactics - honestly -- do we finish in same places last few years without all injuries ?

 

Disagree, because I think the players matter a lot more than the manager. The difference between a mediocre manager and an elite manager is probably along the lines of six points over a full season.

I do think Arsenal need to move on from Wenger (he is 66 years old after all), but that's because the club needs to change its structure so that it's not reliant on one person to make all the decisions - the structure needs to be more like Barcelona's, where there's a coherent structure for developing playing and coaching talent, but without the dysfunctional transfer policy.

 

Depends, I think. The 2013/2014 team probably overachieved, but if the team was mostly healthy probably would have finished second instead of fourth. Ditto for the 2014/2015 team. Last year's team probably wins the league if Coquelin and Cazorla don't injure their knees in the same freaking game.

The 2007/2008 team wins the league if one of Eduardo, Rosicky, or Van Persie didn't get hurt.

Injuries are also the key factor that an article that Jitty loves to cite raises - it basically trashes Wenger's tactics, then says that the possession play should be taught in textbooks, and says that Arsenal's key issue is injuries at the very end.

 

Do

As time goes on its being clear that Wenger doesn't reserve the credit for the early stuff

 

Indeed. It always seems to be something.

He's obviously intelligent and seems to be a hard worker. I wonder if he is actually good at managing details to the point that he is arrogant and takes on too much. He seems to be a bit of a control freak.

 

I am? Since when have I said that? You just assume that when someone urges Wenger to purchase a player that means we want the club to spend money just to spend money. That's not the case at all. We believe that depth and quality are needed for the squad, and to do that, yes, money must be spent. But not just for the sake of spending money.

You infer and assume far too much and quite frankly, your smugness and believed superiority to everyone in this forum is ridiculous. I hope you don't act like that in person.

 

By the way... I think Sky got it wrong in that we bid for lacazette before the west ham bid and not after

 

Wonder if Juventus may be willing to part with any of their attackers now that they've signed Higuain?

 

Zaza or mandzukic will surely be gone
But both are meh

 

Agreed. Dybala would be my preference but they aren't letting him leave. I still don't understand the Higuain move that much but what do I know...