The Other Teams Thread, Vol. VIII

Discussion in 'Bayern Munich' started by NUFCBayern, May 29, 2016.

  1. Dr.Phil

    Dr.Phil Member+

    Jan 18, 2004
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    But what about them taking our bench players or even our use to be players
     
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  2. P to the Wee

    P to the Wee Red Card

    Nov 22, 2011
    Susan is a Little Lamb
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    All I know is that if BVB was playing 2BL, Susan would have never been a "fan" of theirs
     
  3. Rosebud

    Rosebud Member+

    Aug 5, 2012
    Chicago, IL, USA
    Club:
    Union Berlin
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    He's even more talented than Coman. Glad he's in the BuLi, even if he could even been even cooler and picked the other Borussia instead. :cool:
     
  4. Bayern4Life

    Bayern4Life Member+

    Aug 22, 2004
    Are we paying Dortmund anything for Dembele's apprenticeship before he moves here in a couple years or nah? Just thought it might be a nice gesture. :ROFLMAO::devilish:
     
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  5. albert_mk87

    albert_mk87 Member+

    Aug 27, 2008
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    A lot of speculations about Pogba being sold for 12o mil(lol) and Juve buying 28,29 years old in December Higuain for 94 mil(lol). If they can get a serious replacement for Pogba who for me is very overrated they can have a serious champions league team. Plus i read that they are selling the likes of Zaza and Perreyra? for 20 + mil even Juve is selling some scrubs better then us. Atleast BVB is getting stronger with Higuain to Juve seria a will be even a bigger joke.

    Alves,Benatia,Bonnuci,Chiellini,Alex Sandro(Evra)
    ------Marchisio,Khedira,Pjanic
    ----------------Dybala--Higuain
     
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  6. EmersonRW

    EmersonRW Member

    May 3, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    PSG is actually going to be a legit team this year.

    They can make a case as a CL contender with Unai Emery as coach and this as their XI:

    ------------------Cavani
    Ben Arfa---------------------Di Maria
    -----------Veratti-----Matuidi
    ---------------Krychowiak
    Kurzawa-Marquinhos-T.Silva-Aurier
    ------------------Trapp

    Bench: Pastore, David Luiz, Lucas, Rabiot, Motta, Meunier, Maxwell, Sirigu, Areola
     
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  7. swit0539

    swit0539 Member+

    Aug 13, 2008
    Sydney
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund

    This joke just never gets tired
     
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  8. Dhajj

    Dhajj Member+

    Nov 25, 2010
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    And yet it happens every season......:rolleyes:
     
  9. Jolly Rancha

    Jolly Rancha Member+

    Sep 23, 2013
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    The Schuerrle signing is a puzzling one. That they paid that much for a player who has been far worse than Goetze

    They are obscenely loaded with AM's and wingers. Kagawa, Goetze, Reus, Dembele, Mor and now Schuerrle
     
  10. Dhajj

    Dhajj Member+

    Nov 25, 2010
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    If you think that's bad.... What can we make about the ridiculous money spent on ********ing higuain??? :rolleyes:
     
  11. Sarcasm Bot

    Sarcasm Bot Member+

    Nov 4, 2014
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Lots of ifs there. Kurzawa couldn't nail down a place ahead of Maxwell last season, but Emery might trust him more. Aurier can go mental at any time. David Luiz their marquee defender is probably not going to sit on the bench (and he's a full on question mark). Can Ben Arfa carry on his previous season form into the next one? Is Cavani finally going to deliver without Ibra there to steal his thunder?

    They'll storm ligue 1, but I don't really see them at the required level to challenge for the UCL consistently.

    Higuain is about 5 times the player Schurrle is.
     
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  12. MatthausSammer

    MatthausSammer Moderator
    Staff Member

    Dec 9, 2012
    Canada
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
     
  13. Sarcasm Bot

    Sarcasm Bot Member+

    Nov 4, 2014
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    They paid 50 mil for him. Silva is definitely one of the best in the world, and yes, I would play Marquinhos ahead of Luiz, but he costs them too much to become a bench option.
     
  14. MatthausSammer

    MatthausSammer Moderator
    Staff Member

    Dec 9, 2012
    Canada
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    The architect of the Luiz deal, Leonardo IIRC, is no longer with PSG, and Emery has very little incentive to play an inferior player just because of his fee.
     
  15. Sarcasm Bot

    Sarcasm Bot Member+

    Nov 4, 2014
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    then they should think about moving him on.
     
  16. MatthausSammer

    MatthausSammer Moderator
    Staff Member

    Dec 9, 2012
    Canada
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Possibly, but I can't imagine there's much of a market for him at his (presumably high) wages.
     
  17. Jolly Rancha

    Jolly Rancha Member+

    Sep 23, 2013
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    That's another terrible deal for a player with no resale value. But Manyoo is funding the transfer so I'm not sure they care
     
  18. Dhajj

    Dhajj Member+

    Nov 25, 2010
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    With that kind of money why waste most of it on a choke artist like higuain?

    If he's so great right now why is he in Napoli and not the top 5 clubs before?

    I think this is the biggest waste of funds I've seen in my lifetime :/
     
  19. Sarcasm Bot

    Sarcasm Bot Member+

    Nov 4, 2014
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    he is going to Juventus, a top 5 club.

    which striker would you buy for 90 mil?
     
  20. soccerr9

    soccerr9 Member+

    Jun 6, 2005
    Pogba will leave Juve if he wants to. His transfer has nothing to do with Higuain.

    With Zaza reportedly on his way out for 30m after Morata returned to Madrid for 30, Juve needed a striker with a specific profile to pair with Dybala. Even with Pogba leaving, Juve have eight midfielders. 2-3 will likely be sold for 20m each while Juve look to bring in an extra quality midfielder if Pogba were to leave. This is why Higuain has little to do with Pogba's potential sale.

    As for the market for strikers, many players with potential are being valued at prime prices.

    Inter won't sell Icardi for less than 60-70m. Morata, Lukaku, Lacazette, etc are being valued at 70m+.

    Typically it's best to purchase players between the ages of 22-25 since they usually come at a steep discount relative to players that are in their prime. This segment of the market has seen a pretty dramatic rise in its price to the point where the excessive discount has all but vanished. None of these players have a long enough history to suggest that they will eventually reach that top 5 CF level. So it's understandable that Juve opted for top striker in their prime for a bit more than one with potential that still carries risks.

    Higuain may be a bit overpriced, but it's not as if Juve haven't bought great at values all summer. Pjanic for 30m is a steal compared to some of the other midfielders that have moved for 10-20m more. Benatia on loan with an option to buy for 18m based on appearances also reduces Juve's downside risk. Juve had the option of signing Cuadrado for 25m but instead brought in Dani Alves for free. If Pogba decides to stay and with a few offsetting sales of squad players, Juve's net spending will likely be in line with their usual 50-60m euro transfer budget.
     
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  21. Matakos

    Matakos Member+

    May 18, 2009
    Macedonia, Greece
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Let's dispell another myth about Kroos passing the ball only sideways:
    http://bundesligafanatic.com/impect-packing-the-future-of-football-analytics-is-here/
     
  22. Dhajj

    Dhajj Member+

    Nov 25, 2010
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    NOW, because Juve are blowing their money on him..

    After Real Madrid was he in a top 5 club?
     
  23. Dhajj

    Dhajj Member+

    Nov 25, 2010
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    What is the avg age of juventus right now?

    I think that kind of money regardless of pogba for someone like higuain is twilight zone stuff... Especially for a shrewd Italian team like juventus..

    The money for higuain could be used elsewhere, maybe invest in some more youth talents across the board?

    This is just crazy money for someone like him...
     
  24. NUFCBayern

    NUFCBayern Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 9, 2004
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Dude I don't care how much he chokes....have you actually looked at Higuain's stats? 36 goals in 35 Serie A appearances last year. Next highest player had 19.

    Not 90 mil-worth. But very impressive. So let's dispel the notion that he's some scrub.
     
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  25. Rosebud

    Rosebud Member+

    Aug 5, 2012
    Chicago, IL, USA
    Club:
    Union Berlin
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    #450 Rosebud, Jul 25, 2016
    Last edited: Jul 25, 2016
    Luiz hasn't really been full of question marks since partnering up with Thiago Silva. The way he's thrived in PSG is why Marquinhos has so struggled to nail down a regular spot in the center.

    Kurzawa really should've taken over that spot; despite Maxwell's strong form in recent years.

    Agreed about Aurier & Ben Arfa being question marks; although both are extraordinary talents when they have their heads on right.

    As for Cavani, he's scored very well for them for a winger who doesn't take penalties. Playing as a striker again his confidence should get a nice boost.

    As for the CL, like with the other contenders, healthy, form, and the draw will determine how far they go. But after Barca and Bayern, they have as good a shot as anyone.

    David Luiz isn't an inferior player to Marquinhos though...at least not at this point, since Marquinhos is still so young and could surpass him eventually. Though it's likelier that it's an aging Silva whom he replaces, if he doesn't change clubs.

    To take him away from Napoli. Though he's choked in big moments, he scores a ton of league goals for Juve's biggest domestic competitor.

    I buy the thinking that half of the fee is to bring Higuain in, and the other half would be to take him away from Napoli.

    Nice to see them getting more attention. I'm not a fan of advanced stats in general, but when Reinartz retired I looked into this and they are onto some interesting things.

    Plus anything that shows how awesome the last DDR-born superstar really is, is cool by me.
     
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