Mexico's Football Related Random Thoughts Thread - Volumen Cuarenta Y Nueve

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  1. Ceres

    Ceres Member+

    Jan 18, 2004
    Aarhus, Denmark
    Club:
    AGF Aarhus
    Nat'l Team:
    Denmark
    I was stating a fact ... I have no problem feeling proud of who I am and where I come from ... but it's a general problem among white people in most of Western Europe ... not least in Germany and Sweden next door...
     
  2. halfnhalf89

    halfnhalf89 Member+

    Aug 19, 2008
    #3602 halfnhalf89, Jun 24, 2016
    Last edited: Jun 24, 2016
    I don't agree with his post and views but that's his opinion. I'm just arguing that there is nothing wrong with a country keeping its cultural views and beliefs rather than catering to political correctness or minorities.

    People will argue about Imperialism but fact is there will always be a group/people trying to gain control of areas/lands/commodities no matter whether they are white, brown, black or yellow. It just so happens that white Europeans happened to be more technologically advanced than everybody else. What human being doesn't naturally crave power? But is it right? Of course not, I would actually support South Africa kicking out all the whites because they have no business being there.

    Before Europeans arrived in the Americas, Native tribes were going to war with each other, even today tribes in Africa are killing each other over power/resources/land. Everybody craves power, and you don't get it by being nice.

    Yes I'm Salvadoran, but I'm basically a Salvadoran Miklo, and I actually do get hate on for being white. I treat everybody the same the no matter how they look. Whats more important is sharing the same beliefs/values.
     
  3. beat junky

    beat junky Member+

    Jul 4, 2007
    CA
    No mames.
     
  4. Kaney

    Kaney Sleeping Dragon
    Staff Member

    Dec 12, 2005
    Lake County, IL AKA Southern Wisconsin
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Good question. I wonder if they will grandfather some of them in so business isn't disrupted...
     
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  5. Sanchito

    Sanchito Member+

    Jul 15, 2005
    an island in my mind
    Thank you for pointing this out...it makes your viewpoint more valid and I like you more because, colonial mindset.
     
  6. halfnhalf89

    halfnhalf89 Member+

    Aug 19, 2008
    How does it not? My grandmother is indigenous, my dad is mestizo, by sister is brown...........
     
  7. Sanchito

    Sanchito Member+

    Jul 15, 2005
    an island in my mind
    but you're white..thank allah.
     
  8. halfnhalf89

    halfnhalf89 Member+

    Aug 19, 2008
    So are you? Should I hate myself for bring white like you?
     
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  9. Sanchito

    Sanchito Member+

    Jul 15, 2005
    an island in my mind
    Ain't nothing white about me...the white claim that many latinos feel compelled to point out if they're one shade lighter than dark brown is a colonial echo of wanting to identify with the conquerers...who gaf?
     
  10. Kaney

    Kaney Sleeping Dragon
    Staff Member

    Dec 12, 2005
    Lake County, IL AKA Southern Wisconsin
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    I've seen many of your pics, breh. You white enough...

    Nothing inherently good or bad about it.

    I agree with the rest of your poast tho.

    Pinches Mexicanos acomplejados...
     
  11. halfnhalf89

    halfnhalf89 Member+

    Aug 19, 2008
    You don't even look latino at all.

    I grew up in Canada, they don't teach you about latin american history here. I don't base my opinions on the colonial mindset because I never knew about it or grew up in that environment. It has always been other latinos who have pointed out my skin color,
     
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  12. Romario'sgurl

    Romario'sgurl Member+

    Wakanda FC
    Aug 26, 2000
    Wakanda
    Club:
    FC Ingolstadt 04
    Nat'l Team:
    Ghana
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  13. Kaney

    Kaney Sleeping Dragon
    Staff Member

    Dec 12, 2005
    Lake County, IL AKA Southern Wisconsin
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
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  14. Kaney

    Kaney Sleeping Dragon
    Staff Member

    Dec 12, 2005
    Lake County, IL AKA Southern Wisconsin
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Maybe that means they'll be forced to look elsewhere for players since European players will basically cost the same as everyone else...
     
  15. chiva_guero

    chiva_guero BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 4, 2007
    Mexico NSR
    Well, if you don't have a problem feeling pride in your heritage and culture, what are you complaining about?

    Pride in you heritage/culture is one thing.

    White supremacy is another.

    White people who think they are being marginalized tend to be ones manipulated by elites to think with a siege mentality. It's effective to mobilize people around regressive and nationalistic movements, but it has little to do with reality.
     
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  16. LGRod

    LGRod Member+

    Mexico
    Aug 14, 2010
    Listenin to Los Bookies
    Club:
    Club Tijuana
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    No Mexicans in the premier league any time soon besides the few with passports. Inb4 "good" @sidspaceman
     
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  17. slkdave

    slkdave Member+

    Jun 17, 2007
    San Diego
    Liga MX welcomes them with open arms, lol.
     
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  18. Ceres

    Ceres Member+

    Jan 18, 2004
    Aarhus, Denmark
    Club:
    AGF Aarhus
    Nat'l Team:
    Denmark
    Now that would be racist, because it only has to do with color and race and is not about cultural and social cohesion ... I really don't get people who think that it's only fair when Europe takes in millions of immigrants from highly different cultures that is hardy able to adapt socially to the host culture, but would never let in millions of white Europeans to their own part of the world, in fear that this would ruin their own culture ... it makes no sense what so ever ... either you believe that white culture is just as welcome in Africa as African culture is welcome in white Europe, otherwise it makes no sense and is quite racist ...

    Personally I believe in the power of social and cultural cohesion, where color and race makes no difference what so ever ... no black man ever worked as a slave in the fields of Northern Europe, because slave trade was banned shortly after the Viking Age by the Church... but I do understand why people who live in the Americas have a different take on white/black issues, because this is where black slavery was big business...
     
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  19. beat junky

    beat junky Member+

    Jul 4, 2007
    CA
    Really breh!? This has to be the dumbest post I've read, it even beats out @DaTruth 's rape post.

    Not sure if serious.

    You must be really ill-informed...or just racist.
     
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  20. CDPontaDelgada

    CDPontaDelgada Member+

    CD Santa Clara
    Aug 15, 2012
    Ponta Delgada PT
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    It's ok





    They can be welcomed by signs that say
















    Bem-vindo ao Portugal
     
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  21. Chivo

    Chivo Member

    Mar 31, 2005
    San Diego
    So i'm currently writing a paper on why Mexico should host a world cup for my Philosophy Class at UCSB. Does anyone have a more detailed source about the official requirements to host a World Cup and/or official reasons that would make a country ineligible to host? I've tried looking online but it has been difficult to find an official source.

    Any help would be greatly appreciated! (It's the last class I need to graduate :thumbsup:)
     
  22. CDPontaDelgada

    CDPontaDelgada Member+

    CD Santa Clara
    Aug 15, 2012
    Ponta Delgada PT
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal

    Northern Europeans tend to have a more difficult time with race and race mixing as blacks tend to be a very foreign subject to them until recently as Nordic nations only used Gaelics and Celts as slaves. I.e Iceland

    Obviously Portugal started the Trans-Atlantic slave trade I'm not saying or denying that but that was significantly due to needed labor to work in the Sugar mills of Brazil and unfortunately Blacks were the most vulnerable and were met with little resistance

    But we tend to be the least racist in terms of color. Historians claim that blacks were used as slaves due to the fact that they were simply black and that is false. Brazil is the worlds most racial mixed nation on earth due to slavery but most racial mixing was due to increasing the work force. Some mulattos and blacks were used as Slave Owners. Rapes happened to black women but also to white women aswell.
    But most race mixing was made by two consenting and willing people

    Meanwhile race mixing was frowned upon in the USA and even to this day in 2016 there is a big stigma about it.


    Spain controlled more territory and more black slaves but has less significantly lower rate of black people in the country

    Just look at our NTs and you'll see the difference in terms of tolerance and racist chants in Portugal are non existent ask Samuel Eto'o how life in Spain was.

    Just look up Cape Verde a nation that is half black and half white

    50% Portuguese
    50% Guniea Bissau ( Balanta ethnic group)

    Race mixing was encouraged and slavery was nonexistent there for a majority of the history.

    End of the day slavery is horrible and leads to a host of other crimes what's done is done and is unreversable but the positive from slavery is that nations like Mexico and Brazil would not currently exist


    Regardless I'm Portuguese and proud and know my history good and bad
    Don't let media lie and cheat their ways in your mind
     
  23. Ceres

    Ceres Member+

    Jan 18, 2004
    Aarhus, Denmark
    Club:
    AGF Aarhus
    Nat'l Team:
    Denmark
    #3623 Ceres, Jun 24, 2016
    Last edited: Jun 24, 2016
    Fact ... in Sweden and Germany the elite have invited in immigrants and refugees by the millions ... in Germany (which is a fairly young nation ) there is a self-hatred that has to do with how they treated the Jews during ww2, so they now try to make up for it by killing off their own culture ... in Sweden it has to do with a general hatred of their Christian culture ... less than 18% of the Swedes believe in a God, so the Swedish elite aim to erase and replace a culture build on Christian morals and values, but in reality replacing it with a "religion" of equality, defending all different cultures "religiously" as being of equal value and to the benefit of Sweden... and so all people of all cultures are invited to join in, to make Sweden a better place and a "beacon of light" to the rest of the World as a self-proclaimed "humanitarian superpower"... or so they believe ...

    To reach this Swedish multicultural utopia, the elite have no problem replacing their own past values and culture, but they can not tolerate any criticism of other cultures that is moving to Sweden... they label it racism ... so any negative aspect of mass immigration or foreign ideology that comes to Sweden is not up for debate .. it can not be discussed freely and openly by the media, but must be suppressed for the sake of the "greater good" of a multicultural utopia...

    Ironically, Sweden now has the biggest employment gap in Europe between natives and immigrants, no doubt because you can't solve a problem that you are not able to discuss openly.... obviously when a country of less than 10 million people invite in more than 100,000 mainly poor people from other highly different cultures in only one year, they desperately need money, housing, schools and doctors for these people and since there is no more money, housing, teachers, doctors or hospitals available, the elite chose the immigrants to be first priority for housing and the other free social benefits, while the more misfortunate and old native Swedes get kicked to the back of the line and their benefits are cut, to find money for the utopia ...

    So what really create the racist and nationalistic movements is the fact that the problems are not adressed or discussed openly and that the newly arrived from other cultures have become first priority for housing and social benefits, while the old and misfortunate natives get kicked to the back of the line and their benefits are cut ... it's all done with the best intentions, because the elite want to show the world how good people they are ... but it has the opposite effect ... it creates anger and frustration among the misfortunate natives, while the different cultures they invite get confused about how to act and how to adapt, because Sweden no longer seem to support any kind of cultural and social cohesion...
     
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  24. Grimmjow316

    Grimmjow316 Member+

    Jun 20, 2012
    Houston, TX
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    El Salvador
    So many tl;dr...


    All I know out of my family my dad and I are lighter skinned than the rest of my family. Well given the Houston Summer's that doesn't last very long in my case.
     
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  25. Romario'sgurl

    Romario'sgurl Member+

    Wakanda FC
    Aug 26, 2000
    Wakanda
    Club:
    FC Ingolstadt 04
    Nat'l Team:
    Ghana
    Trigger Inducing Pic (open)
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