El indecido me molesta, si no me quiero, Transfer Thead 2016

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  1. mwojt21

    mwojt21 Member

    May 22, 2007
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Call me crazy, but I'd sign Zlatan. Even at 35, that guy is an instant game-changer. Still a deadly goal scorer AND has the technique to keep up with Arsenal's style.

    IMO, these are the kind of risks that the top teams make to put them over the top.
     
  2. bigtimebuck4

    bigtimebuck4 Member

    Oct 10, 2004
    We wont go after Zlatan but we obviously should. He wouldn't be that expensive relative to other CF options and is probably the one guy available that could make us clear title favorites.

    -----------------Zlatan
    Alexis----------Ozil-----------Gotze / Mkhitaryan
    ----------Ramsey----Xhaka
    Nacho---Benatia----Kos----Bellarin
    ------------------Cech

    That's a title winning team that wouldn't cost that much. Seems too simple to happen though....
     
  3. chjoak

    chjoak Member+

    Jun 17, 2009
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'd be game for Zlatan. Would still go after another younger ST or ST/W guy incase of injury. Would hate to start the season with only 2 30+ STs available for selection.
     
  4. GunneRy

    GunneRy Member+

    Aug 22, 2006
    Chicago
    I'd love to see him at Arsenal, but he's going to want (and get) 250k-300k. Wenger will never pay him that.
     
  5. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Wenger runs Arsenal like he's going to own it for 100 years.

    I think a move for a 35 year old Zlatan is implausible.
     
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  6. DaPrince84

    DaPrince84 Member+

    Aug 22, 2001
    MD
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Wenger wouldnt pay 35 million for a central midfielder either.

    We not getting Zlatan, but football economics have changed. Arsenal are loaded and dont even have to dip into the bank coffers to get players. There is not a player in the world Arsenal cannot afford.
     
  7. GunneRy

    GunneRy Member+

    Aug 22, 2006
    Chicago
    I don't who said Arsenal wouldn't pay 35m for a central mid because I didn't.

    Didn't say Arsenal couldn't afford him but said Wenger would never pay Ibra 250-300k per week.
     
  8. DaPrince84

    DaPrince84 Member+

    Aug 22, 2001
    MD
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    i didnt say you did say that about buying a player.

    My point is that Arsenal could do it. I even think Wenger would. The club's pockets are just not as deep as United's.
     
  9. BigEffingGooner

    BigEffingGooner Member+

    Apr 25, 2012
    Austin, Tx
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    I have long criticized Wenger's stinginess and transfer dealings. And I would love Zlatan, but there is no one this side of Messi that I'm giving 250k a week to. Certainly not a 35 year old player.

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  10. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Wenger is not stingy. Stop saying it. All of you.

    In the last four years, we're third in the league in net transfer spending. This after being dead last for a decade. Spent more than Chelsea too (though I suspect that will change this summer).

    Now what happened between 2004 and 2013 that would possibly explain low transfer spending?
     
  11. GunneRy

    GunneRy Member+

    Aug 22, 2006
    Chicago
    #986 GunneRy, May 27, 2016
    Last edited: May 27, 2016
    No one's saying he's stingy.

    We're just offering our opinions that Wenger (he of the nearly-mandatory one year contracts for players over 30) would never pay Ibra 250k-300k per week like PSG did (and probably United will).
     
  12. GunnerJacket

    GunnerJacket Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 18, 2003
    Gainesville, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Normally I would be right there with you but I'm actually going to politely counter your point.

    Last summer Arsenal was the only Prem side not to sign any new field players, one of many years where everyone has recognized the team is still 1-3 new players away from taking a step up in calibre. We know Wenger has passed on, and even sold, players based on price, and that this has in part contributed to the team's build up of reserve funds that could be used to strengthen the team but hasn't. Not to the fullest degree, anyway, and even after the refinancing of the stadium debts was completed. Much of this net spending has been on mid-level younger players that in hindsight some might consider overpriced gambles. (Ox, Chambers...) And even when it's known there are players considered top-talents available in positions where they would clearly strengthen Arsenal (Zlatan, Higuain...), Wenger has almost consistently opted for financial prudence over chasing a trophy at all cost.

    Maybe that's not complete stinginess, and I'm certainly not saying it's all bad as I'd rather take this than financial doping a la RA, but clearly Wenger has historically been more a miser and Scrooge than not. Maybe this is finally the summer that changes but we'll see. Until proven otherwise I think Wenger is clearly one with scarlet-tinted glasses who sees the Arsenal roster as ever fully capable of winning "if only they'd all stay healthy and play up to their potential!"
     
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  13. dmike

    dmike Member

    Jul 7, 2004
    SoCal
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Zlatan would be a dream!!

    Obviously a maybe 2 year experiment but if AW is going to retire in style then why not bring the best available with that so called treasure chest .
     
  14. Gunning4Chelsea

    Gunning4Chelsea Member+

    Aug 2, 2005
    chicago
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    oh come on gramps...it's one year!
     
  15. crazy150

    crazy150 Member+

    Aug 27, 2006
    North Cuba
    I'd pay him that in a heartbeat. He is out of contract, no? So 300k/wk on a two year deal plus 6m signing bonus is 37m total cost. He will have no sell on value of course. So 18m a year to have one of the most clinical strikers in the world? Don't see how we get more talent from less money over the short term.

    To top it off, it might keep him from a competitor.
     
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  16. mwojt21

    mwojt21 Member

    May 22, 2007
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's a huge cost--but a short term cost. I'd do it if it gave the team the best chance to win. He's the deadly finisher the team so badly needs. A little confidence & attitude probably wouldn't hurt either.
     
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  17. poetgooner

    poetgooner Member+

    Arsenal
    Nov 20, 2014
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Maybe it's just me, but I've not been that impressed with Zlatan. I've only ever seen him in the UCL, and I don't think he's anything special in this past couple seasons.
     
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  18. elessar78

    elessar78 Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 12, 2010
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    How much does one make for winning EPL or CL?


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  19. Gunning4Chelsea

    Gunning4Chelsea Member+

    Aug 2, 2005
    chicago
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Varies
    Big money comes From tv sponsors, and sales
     
  20. Gunning4Chelsea

    Gunning4Chelsea Member+

    Aug 2, 2005
    chicago
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    At the end of day.. I think zlatan is going to Man U... Question is does he want to play in Cl or not
     
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  21. BigEffingGooner

    BigEffingGooner Member+

    Apr 25, 2012
    Austin, Tx
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    You are missing the bigger picture. If you sign to pay him 250-300k, tomorrow Alexis is in the office wanting close to the same, and Özil behind him ...

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  22. DutchCane

    DutchCane Member+

    Apr 6, 2004
    New York, New York
    Zlatan drops a lot to get on the ball would be interesting t
    LOL the only one who should dare step up for more money is Ozil and so what they want more money? People in hell want ice water. They'll get over it.
     
  23. BigEffingGooner

    BigEffingGooner Member+

    Apr 25, 2012
    Austin, Tx
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Bullshit that Özil would be the only one. Many would come for raises, and Alexis clearly seems to be unhappy andwould be first imo.

    You can't blow up your wage structure like that. And you can't tell your players "feck off, we'll pay him but not you " unless you want that player to walk out of the club.


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  24. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
  25. DutchCane

    DutchCane Member+

    Apr 6, 2004
    New York, New York
    You're making up questions to answer or statements to rebut that I never made. Perhaps you should circle back to what I posted and we can go from there.

    But replying to this statement you made which wasn't in anyway connected to what I actually said, if Alexis wants to leave he's not irreplaceable. I'd be glad if he leaves. People act like he's something he's not. We can find someone else to run around for 90k a week and fuhk up the positioning and flow of the team.
     
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