England Senior Team General Discussion Thread

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  1. TheOwlFace

    TheOwlFace Member

    Apr 7, 2016
    Club:
    AC Ajaccio
  2. W.A.S.P.

    W.A.S.P. Member+

    Leeds United
    England
    Sep 20, 2012
    St. Louis
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    That's along the lines of what I've been saying.
     
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  3. W.A.S.P.

    W.A.S.P. Member+

    Leeds United
    England
    Sep 20, 2012
    St. Louis
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
  4. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Yep, pretty much a common sense decision for once.
     
  5. TheOwlFace

    TheOwlFace Member

    Apr 7, 2016
    Club:
    AC Ajaccio
    Which begs the question, why was Thursday the original date? Never made sense to me. This decision is basically a wait for Welbeck scan results delay
     
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  6. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    I've been advocating the diamond for years

    If u check my post history I recomend ed it before 2006 even to accommodate carrick

    Instead we played variety of 4 4 2 and a shit 4 3 3
     
  7. W.A.S.P.

    W.A.S.P. Member+

    Leeds United
    England
    Sep 20, 2012
    St. Louis
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    I hate a straight up 4-4-2.
     
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  8. Stretch Armstrong

    Jan 15, 2004
    The formation itself isn't the key, but rather the blend and balance of personnel.

    I like the idea of a diamond now because we have:
    - Good central forwards
    - fast, athletic full backs
    - lack of obvious quality in wing forward roles
    - a strong candidate (alli) to play at the tip of the diamond

    Think I would only play a diamond however when starting with Sturridge.

    Of the course the fact we are playing a CB who struggles to hold a defensive line is a rather large problem whatever the blend and shape around him.
     
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  9. sinner78

    sinner78 BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 7, 2001
    Didnt Leicester play 442 ?
    it can be effective if you organise it right. But every single formation has to be organised right and Woy never seems to do that .
     
  10. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
  11. sinner78

    sinner78 BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 7, 2001
    He joins Arse and is instantly injury plagued..
    who the hell is the physio at the club?
     
  12. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
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  13. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
  14. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    He was crocked at utd
     
  15. Cevno

    Cevno Member+

    Aug 27, 2005
    Shifting.
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    He was ? Had issues early on in the first team when he had a growth spurt with Injuries but had more short niggles than anything in the last few years.

    At Arsenal he's turned into a complete crock. That's what 3 long term injuries already ? Seems to pick a fair few knee issues which is worrying.
     
  16. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008


     
  17. sharpovic

    sharpovic Member+

    May 20, 2010
    I find comments on Roy a bit harsh. Thought he did well in the qualifiers , had the balls to play Wilshere DM, which changed our game, and wasn't afraid to play Henderson right back vs Slovenia away to play Lallana 10. Our game has improved overall
     
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  18. W.A.S.P.

    W.A.S.P. Member+

    Leeds United
    England
    Sep 20, 2012
    St. Louis
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    So that's a definite no go on Shaw then. Down to Bertrand or Gibbs as the 2nd left back.
     
  19. hussar

    hussar Member+

    Jun 24, 2015
    Hopefully Gibbs is out of question. Can't find any arguments in the favour of taking him to the Euros, and not Bertrand and Rose.
     
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  20. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Gibbs barely played

    Rose and Betrand are the only choice
     
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  21. MUFC20

    MUFC20 Member

    Jul 28, 2013
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Woy will probably pick Phil Jones and stick him at LB
     
  22. W.A.S.P.

    W.A.S.P. Member+

    Leeds United
    England
    Sep 20, 2012
    St. Louis
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    He's never played as a LB. I believe he's played at RB for us two times.
     
  23. The Potter

    The Potter Member+

    Aug 26, 2004
    England
    Club:
    Stoke City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Are we going to have a dedicated 2016 thread?
     
  24. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
    I will set one up now.
     
  25. W.A.S.P.

    W.A.S.P. Member+

    Leeds United
    England
    Sep 20, 2012
    St. Louis
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Found this:
    http://it.eurosport.com/calcio/la-l...ti-del-calcio-mondiale_sto5002037/story.shtml

    Ranks Alli as the #1 best young player in the world. Players under 21.

    94. James Ward Prowse
    87. Stones
    86. Sterling - boy he's gone way down since he's been at City
    79. Shaw
    72. Patrick Roberts
    39. Ibe
    32. Joe Gomez
    21. Dier
    17. Dan Crowely

    Obviously some sketchy names in their. So maybe not so realiable, but it's hard to argue who had a better and more productive season than Alli in that list. A little odd to not see Grealish in their based on their criteria, but atm he doesn't deserve a mention in their anyway.
     

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