German Youth Discussion Thread Vol. III [R]

Discussion in 'Germany: National Teams' started by ForeverRed, Feb 27, 2012.

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  1. Icke

    Icke Member

    Mar 15, 2009
    Kölle, Germany
    Club:
    FC Köln
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Well, could be. With "strange" I also meant the age of the mother, especially in comparison to the age of the father. Lets see which club gets the kid
     
  2. Epitome990

    Epitome990 Member+

    Jun 27, 2013
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Austria
    Yea that part of the story was like wtf...There's also no guarantee this kid will be that good in the future. I'm not a fan of hyping up players when they're just 12 years old or whatever.
     
  3. Icke

    Icke Member

    Mar 15, 2009
    Kölle, Germany
    Club:
    FC Köln
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Absolutely, just posted it because of the special circumstances. So of course I hope a 12year old doesn't become the forums new german striker hope;)
     
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  4. timh19

    timh19 Member+

    Jul 26, 2011
    Yeah, I was also like wtf. He was 53, she was 15 when Youssoufa was conceived. Sex with a minor...... shouldn't he be prosecuted ? I guess the laws in Cameroon are different.....

    He's tearing up the U15 league at the age of 12. It's time to get excited y'all. He could be the next Messi :p

    (or the next Freddy Adu)
     
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  5. Epitome990

    Epitome990 Member+

    Jun 27, 2013
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Austria
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  6. Epitome990

    Epitome990 Member+

    Jun 27, 2013
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Austria
  7. Epitome990

    Epitome990 Member+

    Jun 27, 2013
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Austria
    Stendel talking about the three '96 born talents he's trying to promote at H96. He considers Tim Dierssen to be "one of the most talented players he's ever coached".

    Can Tuna is "a workhorse with vision in midfield. A hip operation has set him back, but now he returns."

    Re: Sarenren-Bazee "I would bring Noah forward. He is quick as lightning".

    http://m.neuepresse.de/Hannover-96/Aktuell/Stendel-laesst-die-Talente-los
     
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  8. timh19

    timh19 Member+

    Jul 26, 2011
    #7133 timh19, Apr 8, 2016
    Last edited: Apr 8, 2016
    Another special talent with African roots is Bayer Leverkusen's attacking midfielder Thierno Ballo. He is the best player from the 2002 age group and apparently Bayern Munich are desperate to sign him. I have no idea if he will join them. We have to wait and see. Ballo is the only 2002-born player who has been part of the German U15 squad this season( was called up for 3 different training camps).

    Here he is, playing up an age group, #10 (recent videos) :




    This is from April 2015 (his second goal was nice) :


    This is from May 2014, scores 2 goals and makes 1 assist and 1 pre-assist vs Inter


    He is technically gifted, quick, good dribbler, has vision and can score goals.
     
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  9. Kirsten19

    Kirsten19 Member

    Apr 1, 2008
    Newport Beach, CA
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    I've heard of him from a scout couple of months ago.

    Ballo is very talented and can play multiple positions up front

    Different to Moukoko, Ballo was actually born in Austria so he might not be able to lie about his age.

    Same scout told me Moukoko is already 178cm at the age of 11. He has to be 14/15 already unfortunately.
     
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  10. Epitome990

    Epitome990 Member+

    Jun 27, 2013
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Austria
    U17 Euro groups are drawn. Germany will play against Ukraine, Bosnia, and Austria on May 5, 8, and 11 respectively.

    Gruppe A: Aserbaidschan, Portugal, Belgien, Schottland
    Gruppe B: Ukraine, Deutschland, Österreich, Bosnien & Herzegowina
    Gruppe C: Frankreich, Dänemark, England, Schweden
    Gruppe D: Italien, Serbien, Niederlande, Spanien

    http://www.dfb.de/news/detail/u-17-...e-oesterreich-und-bosnien-herzegowina-143514/
     
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  11. Lusankya

    Lusankya Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 14, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Looks like we got the easiest group. Groups C and D are loaded with strong teams.
     
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  12. Alex_K

    Alex_K Member+

    Mar 23, 2002
    Braunschweig, Germany
    Club:
    Eintracht Braunschweig
    Nat'l Team:
    Bhutan
    It's legal in Germany as well - age of consent is 14 here, so it's not just Cameroon.
     
  13. BorisG

    BorisG Member+

    Sep 30, 2009
    Namibia
    Club:
    FC Nürnberg
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I believe the law is that even with consent the partner also needs to under 18 ../ I don't think it's legal for a adult to have sex with a 14 year old !!!
     
  14. Alex_K

    Alex_K Member+

    Mar 23, 2002
    Braunschweig, Germany
    Club:
    Eintracht Braunschweig
    Nat'l Team:
    Bhutan
    No, it is legal. If one partner is a minor and the other over 21 years old, then there are stricter rules when it comes to consent - but in itself it's perfectly legal if both consent. For details: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_Europe#Germany
     
  15. Lusankya

    Lusankya Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 14, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    No, it is legal. You are allowed to have sex with a 14 year old even if you're older than 21 as long as this person does not exploit a 14- to 15-year-old person's lack of capacity for sexual self-determination. And even in this case a legal guardian of the child need to file charges against the adult person.

    There are of course laws to further protect 14 to 17 year old minors. E.g. adults who educate, supervise or qualify youths (e.g. teachers) are not allowed to have sex with 14 and 15 year olds in any case and aren't allowed to have sex with 16 and 17 year olds if they abuse their position of power.

    https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schutzalter
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_Europe#Germany
     
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  16. bvb17

    bvb17 Member

    Mar 12, 2016
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Sarenren-Bazee with his debut for Hannover 96.He had a solid game,considering that it's his first appearance in the BL.He seemed to be very quick,but too nervous sometimes.
     
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  17. Rosebud

    Rosebud Member+

    Aug 5, 2012
    Chicago, IL, USA
    Club:
    Union Berlin
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    He's too small. Won't win many headers against grown at his height.
     
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  18. Epitome990

    Epitome990 Member+

    Jun 27, 2013
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Austria
    Group D is definitely the group of death. All of those teams look evenly matched and with a chance to advance.

    For group B, I'm not too familiar with Ukraine or Bosnia's players but this Austria side looks pretty meh.
     
  19. timh19

    timh19 Member+

    Jul 26, 2011
    Did this scout give you any other insight ? Did he talk to you about other talents ?

    Yeah, Ballo was born in Austria. He is definitely not an age cheat.


    What about the picture of him as a 10 year old ? Might be 11 there but not more than that, I don't think.

    If he is actually 14, it's still a good achievement to be scoring so many goals at the U15 level. Might still have good potential.
     
  20. timh19

    timh19 Member+

    Jul 26, 2011
    Gnabry scored for Arsenal U21s and was impressive throughout the match. He is continuing to work his way back to full fitness.

     
  21. timh19

    timh19 Member+

    Jul 26, 2011
    #7146 timh19, Apr 8, 2016
    Last edited: Apr 8, 2016
    Spain and especially Italy are usually not very good at the U17 level but still it's a very interesting group. The Serbians are usually big and strong and have a very well organized team so they will be a tough opponent.

    Austria beat France 2-1 in the Elite Round so they might have a good team but still Germany should be beating them. Apparently Ukraine were lucky to get a 1-1 draw vs England in the Elite Round. England completely dominated them but were very wasteful. Bosnia have Benjamin Hadzic who has scored 15 goals in 21 games for Bayern U17s this season.

    Portugal vs Belgium should be a very good game. France vs England too. I can't wait for the tournament to begin.
     
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  22. timh19

    timh19 Member+

    Jul 26, 2011
    Did you know that Renat Dadashov's elder brother Rufat plays for Azerbaijan at senior level ?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rufat_Dadashov

    What a coincidence that our best striker is of Azerbaijani descent and the U17 Euro takes place in Azerbaijan. You can't make this stuff up.
     
  23. Sudžuka

    Sudžuka Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jan 27, 2013
    What are the expectations for Germany? Is the squad rated highly?
     
  24. Epitome990

    Epitome990 Member+

    Jun 27, 2013
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Austria
    Waldemar Anton also made his first full start in Hannover's 2-2 vs Hertha. I remember reading a H96 fan forum a while ago, and this was the kid that many were excited about, so this should be his chance right now. Stendel also favors him ahead of others like Andre Hoffmann.
     
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  25. Epitome990

    Epitome990 Member+

    Jun 27, 2013
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Austria
    Yea, saw that result. But Austria were also held to scoreless draws against Iceland and Greece. I do enjoy the unpredictability and openness of youth football though. It's just I'm not really noticing any particular individual qualities within that Austria squad.
     

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