UEFA Women's under 17/19 Championship

Discussion in 'Women's International' started by Lusankya, Mar 31, 2011.

  1. Lechus7

    Lechus7 Member+

    Aug 31, 2011
    Wroclaw
    U19 Elite Round

    Group 6 Matchday 1

    Switzerland vs. Norway 2:2
    (Zehnder 9', Mergoz 80'(p) / Hansen 48', Lie 71')

    Russia vs. Hungary 1:1
    (Khotyreva 8' / Kajan 56')
     
  2. shlj

    shlj Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
    London
    Club:
    FC Nantes
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    Interesting results. Everyone with a chance. Might have a runner-up with 4 pts in the runner-up race.
     
  3. shlj

    shlj Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
    London
    Club:
    FC Nantes
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    Group 4 results

    Spain 3 Italy 0
    Denmark 5 Northern Ireland 0
     
  4. Lechus7

    Lechus7 Member+

    Aug 31, 2011
    Wroclaw
    Matchday 1

    Group 1

    Azerbaijan vs. Poland 0:0
    Germany vs. Ireland 1:0

    Group 2

    England vs. Austria 1:0
    Sweden vs. Belgium 2:1

    Group 3

    Finland vs. Belarus 2:1
    Netherlands vs. Czech Rep. 7:2 :eek:

    Group 5

    Scotland vs. Greece 1:0
    France vs. Portugal 3:0
     
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  5. shlj

    shlj Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
    London
    Club:
    FC Nantes
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    The U17 finals draw :


    Group A:
    Belarus (hosts), Serbia, England, Norway
    Group B: Italy, Czech Republic, Germany, Spain (holders)

    Group stage: 4, 7 & 10 May – a game on each day in Borisov (Gorodskoi Stadium), Minsk, Slutsk and Zhodino
     
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  6. Lusankya

    Lusankya Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 14, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Considering there was no seeding that's quite a fair draw.
     
  7. shlj

    shlj Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
    London
    Club:
    FC Nantes
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    Agreed two "big" teams in each group and two "smaller" ones.
    I expect England, Norway, Germany and Spain to reach the semi-finals.
    Hard to know who will make the top 3 that will get to the World Cup.
     
  8. shlj

    shlj Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
    London
    Club:
    FC Nantes
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    U19 Elite Round

    Group 6 Matchday 2

    Switzerland 4 Hungary 0
    Norway 1 Russia 0

    Switzerland and Norway 4 pts
    Hungary and Russia 1 pt
     
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  9. Lechus7

    Lechus7 Member+

    Aug 31, 2011
    Wroclaw
    U-19 Elite Round

    Matchday 2

    Group 1

    Germany vs. Poland 3:1
    Ireland vs. Azerbeijan 3:0

    Group 2

    England vs. Belgium 0:1
    Austria vs. Sweden 1:0

    Group 3

    Finland vs. Czech Rep 1:2
    Belarus vs. Netherlands 0:3

    Group 4

    Spain vs. Northern Ireland 7:1
    Italy vs. Denmark 1:1

    Group 5

    France vs. Greece 5:0
    Portugal vs. Scotland 1:1
     
  10. shlj

    shlj Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
    London
    Club:
    FC Nantes
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    Group 1

    Germany are through to the finals

    Group 2

    All the teams have 3 points, Belgium and Sweden 0n 2-2 goals while England and Austria are 1-1

    Group 3

    Open with 3 teams in it.

    Group 4

    Spain and Danmark will fight for the top spot and play each other

    Group 5

    Same configuration for France and Scotland
     
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  11. Batfink

    Batfink Member+

    May 23, 2010
    Attilan
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    I'm always confused by the U-19 time table lol.

    Plus shouldn't the teams who've qualified for the U-20 WC stink right now at U-19 level..? Just seeing the new names, is exactly why I question peoples sweeping analysis of any nations pool of talent, as who can really keep track of all the player turnover...:confused:
     
  12. Batfink

    Batfink Member+

    May 23, 2010
    Attilan
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
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  13. shlj

    shlj Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
    London
    Club:
    FC Nantes
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    Why ? I mean because girls born in 96 did well does not automatically mean those born in 97 should not be quality ?
     
  14. Lechus7

    Lechus7 Member+

    Aug 31, 2011
    Wroclaw
    Matchday 3

    Group 6

    Russia v Switzerland 0:1
    Hungary v Norway 0:1

    1. Switzerland qual.
    2. Norway qual. as best runner-up

    Group 3

    Netherlands v Finland 1:1
    Czech Rep. v Belarus 2:0

    1. Netherlands qual.

    Group 4

    Denmark v Spain 1:3
    Northern Ireland v Italy 0:3

    1. Spain qual.

    Group 1

    Azerbaijan v Germany 1:5
    Poland v Ireland 0:2

    1. Germany qual.
     
  15. shlj

    shlj Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
    London
    Club:
    FC Nantes
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    Group 2
    Sweden 0 England 0
    Belgium 0 Austria 2

    1. Austria qualifies

    Group 5

    France 2 Scotland 0
    Greece 0 Portugal 2

    Finals to be played in Slovakia 19-31 of July
     
  16. Batfink

    Batfink Member+

    May 23, 2010
    Attilan
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    #666 Batfink, Apr 11, 2016
    Last edited: Apr 11, 2016
    I'm not saying one good generation should instantly equate to the next one being weaker... I actually believe healthy development can see any nation continue to produce teams capable of making Euro finals tournaments.

    However, with the patterns of the U-19 Euro's finals clearly being shaped by the U-20 WC cycle, I just find odd to constantly read peoples sweeping generalisations on the capabilities of various nations depth of talent, all based on the results gathered throughout the transitional period between the U-17 to U-19/20 levels...:confused:.

    Of course that may seem contradictory with me saying why don't the U-19 wnt's who've qualified for the U-20 WC stink at this particular point in time, but that's me thinking about the coaches constantly spinning the plates of their current U-19 side, while planning the for the next U-19 team, preparing for the up coming process of coaching U-20 teams at the WC.

    Doing all that, I'd usually expect one crop of players to lose momentum for a short spell in time, but even with the extra strain of a WC cycle, three of UEFA's four WC representatives have made the final's tournament again, using a mix of new and more established names.

    Is this good for UEFA... I don't know, but it clearly signals at a time of limited professionalism, a few nations are building highly impressive player development pathways that will surely bear fruit for the senior scene at some point in the not so distant future.
     
  17. debzy

    debzy Member+

    May 26, 2009
    paris
    Club:
    Paris Saint Germain FC
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    France U19 goals during qualification round, many between these girls will be at U20 World Cup and our WC in 2019 so take a look if you want to know what France's close future will be made of.

     
  18. Batfink

    Batfink Member+

    May 23, 2010
    Attilan
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Is this the same group of players who represented France at the recent U-19-23 Lamanga international tournament...?

    I thought it strange that Sweden U-23, France U-19, and Germany U-20, all sent different age groups out to Lamanga in a U-20 WC year...:confused:, but did France send their U-19 side, because most of their U-20 team will be comprised of these very same players..?
     
  19. shlj

    shlj Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
    London
    Club:
    FC Nantes
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    The La Manga tourney had a U19 and U23 section. France does not have a U23 team but a B team.

    Many countries sent their U20 team rather than the U23 to prepare for the World Cup.

    I expect our U20 side to be mainly girls born in 96 but you never know some clubs might prevent the players from going because it is played during the season in a non FIFA date.
     
  20. Batfink

    Batfink Member+

    May 23, 2010
    Attilan
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    #670 Batfink, Apr 13, 2016
    Last edited: Apr 13, 2016
    At Lamanga, Germany were playing within the U-23 section using a mixture of it's U-19/20 side, but France were clearly in the U-19 section facing other U-19 teams...:cautious:

    Germany don't have a U-23 side either, but thought it made sense to look at various names for the up coming U-20 WC, by combining it's U-20 and U-19 sides into one team of WC potentials, to take part in the only age group where they could better asses individuals now ineligible or deemed too mature for U-19 competition, next to the U-19 regulars currently taking part in UEFA's Euro's qualification process.

    Plus I've seen debzy mention how particular French clubs could withhold certain names from appearing at the next WC tournament, but the DFB won't have any of that concerning Bremer, and I find it hard to imagine the FFF will tolerate the same attitude concerning the fates of their best U-20 options either.
     
  21. shlj

    shlj Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
    London
    Club:
    FC Nantes
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    Nope : http://www.dfb.de/frauen-nationalmannschaften/ they have a U23, a U20 and a U19 side.
     
  22. debzy

    debzy Member+

    May 26, 2009
    paris
    Club:
    Paris Saint Germain FC
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    Batfink you're right, at La Manga it was our U19 squad, I just checked the list because frankly I've forgotten who were there....but yes it was the group who just qualified for the Euro. The B where at the Istria tournament at the same time.
    http://www.footdelles.com/article/E...-programmes-et-selections-de-mars_127204.html
    For the record they won the tournament....excellent memory Batfink:thumbsup:.
    Frankly I don't think nobody knows who will be there at the U20 WC.....for example taking Bremer's case,I strongly doubt Lyon will be happy to let her go for a full month (plus preparation...) basically out for 4-5 games, they "recommended" Sweden to not play Schelin and call back Necib from France's camp and rumors say Precheur is furious with Bergeroo because of his overuse of OL players even in friendlies..... So one thing is sure they gonna put pressure on the DFB to let Bremer stay in France for sure, even though it could not be successful ....same goes with Leger and Karchaoui with France/Montpellier. Be ready for a club vs country.
    Many of our girls (and I assume other Europeans teams) are starters or even more key players in their respective clubs and to renounce to them for such a long period during the season could seriously be damaging for each clubs target.
    Talking about France junior teams, our U20 teams is made with at least 1/3 of current U19 players , the Cascarino twins, Greboval, Cissoko, Condon, Mateo, Geyoro are all important players, mostly starters, so it will all depend on what cup the FFF prefer to win as I really doubt they'll make both competition...me personally I'd like to be world champion more than European...:cool:
     
  23. Batfink

    Batfink Member+

    May 23, 2010
    Attilan
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Yeah, and Germany's U-23's last two games were played two years apart in 2010-12...
    [​IMG]
    Are we still calling this age group relevant for Germany any more...?
     
  24. Batfink

    Batfink Member+

    May 23, 2010
    Attilan
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Interesting stance considering that not long ago the U.S. sanitary pad cup thingy saw senior level French and German girls forced to participate in something even more vexing for clubs paying players wages...:unsure:

    Plus the German girls who've already proven their worth at U-20/senior level don't take part in U-20's preparations, with this being witnessed around Germany's recent squad selections at U-19/20 level, as it suggests Meinert is making plans around a few previous WC winners returning, with Bremer most likely the final cog in a team the recent Lamanga tournament showcased lacking the end product of a legit #9 too.

    So I still find it very difficult to believe the DFB would allow it's best player not to be part of the next U-20 squad, when it's now a clear German wnt program tradition that should the team qualify, any younger players who standout above their age group at U-19 level, instantly go back to youth U-20 cycle as team leaders the second go around.

    The four teams who've qualified from UEFA will all have different processes to ready themselves for the U-20 level, but clubs blocking key players U-20 inclusions right now....:cautious:; I've only seen this happen once, and that needed Marta making serious money in the Swedish league as the worlds best player. NOBODY at U-19/20 level is close to that important right now....
     
  25. shlj

    shlj Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
    London
    Club:
    FC Nantes
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    Oh well :

    Clubs are obliged to release their registered players to the representative teams of the country for which the player is eligible to play on the basis of her nationality if they are called up by the association concerned. Any agreement between a player and a club to the contrary is prohibited.


    The release of players under the terms of paragraph 1 of this article is mandatory for all international windows listed in the women’s international match calendar (cf. paragraphs 3 and 4 below) as well as for the final competitions of the FIFA Women’s World Cup™, the Women’s Olympic Football Tournament, the championships for “A” women’s representative teams of the confederations, subject to the relevant association being a member of the organising confederation, and the confederations’ final round qualifi cation tournaments for the Women’s
    Olympic Football Tournament (maximum release period of 12 days).

    The calendar is here

    The FIFA U20 WWC played between the 13th of November and the 3rd of December is not in the calendar.
    Player's release is therefore not mandatory. The club can decide to keep their players.
     
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